On 03.10.19 14:15, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
Strong -1 on Java 8 as the minimum version. Google Cloud Platform has
lots of products and customers that still require Java 7. If Maven
requires Java 8, we'd have to stick to the latest of whichever release
does support Java 7 for at least a year and I'm guessing longer.

Hm.. first Java 7 is out for eight years now (2011) (End of live) and
has no public updates for security/bug fixes etc. since 2015

Furthermore Java 8 is out for five years (2014) so to be honest I
wouldn't trust an environment which is not upgrading etc. in particular
in a clould environment...

Why hadn't started Google to update their environment over the time to
JDK 8 etc. (I think they have much more resources than anyone).


One more thing is:
 There is a difference between running Maven to build for example
 with JDK 8 and running your resulting artifacts (see toolchain comment
 from Stephen Connolly..

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise


[1]: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/java-se-support-roadmap.html



On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 8:04 AM Robert Scholte <rfscho...@apache.org> wrote:

Hi,

TLDR; introduce maven.experimental.buildconsumer and push Java requirement
to Java 8

now that Maven 3.6.2 is out for a couple of weeks, it seems like we didn't
face real regressions.
The only one might be tricky is the issue related to Tycho.

However, I think we're ready to push Maven to the next level.

For those actively reading this list, they should recognize the need for
splitting up the pom as it is on the local system versus the pom being
uploaded. Once we truly control this mechanism we can think of
improvements on model 5.0.0 and new fileformats.

I've created and implemented MNG-6656[1]. It also contains a zip with an
example (original, patched, README) to understand what's happening.

In order to make this successful, we need IDEs and CI Servers to
understand and support these changes. The likely need to implement one of
the interfaces[2].
The new interface uses Java8 Functions (and especially SAXEventFactory is
way easier to read+maintain with Java 8). I've tried to keep Maven Java 7
compatible, but that was too hard to do.
So I'd like to use this opportunity to move Maven forward and start
requiring Java 8.

There are some other improvements I'd like to add (those messages will
follow), so this will imply that it will take some time before we do a new
release.

WDTY,
Robert

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6656
[2] https://github.com/apache/maven/compare/MNG-6656?expand=1

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