Am 2019-09-28 um 14:05 schrieb Robert Scholte:
Hi,

TLDR; introduce maven.experimental.buildconsumer and push Java requirement to Java 8

now that Maven 3.6.2 is out for a couple of weeks, it seems like we didn't face real regressions.
The only one might be tricky is the issue related to Tycho.

However, I think we're ready to push Maven to the next level.

For those actively reading this list, they should recognize the need for splitting up the pom as it is on the local system versus the pom being uploaded. Once we truly control this mechanism we can think of improvements on model 5.0.0 and new fileformats.

I've created and implemented MNG-6656[1]. It also contains a zip with an example (original, patched, README) to understand what's happening.

In order to make this successful, we need IDEs and CI Servers to understand and support these changes. The likely need to implement one of the interfaces[2]. The new interface uses Java8 Functions (and especially SAXEventFactory is way easier to read+maintain with Java 8). I've tried to keep Maven Java 7 compatible, but that was too hard to do. So I'd like to use this opportunity to move Maven forward and start requiring Java 8.

There are some other improvements I'd like to add (those messages will follow), so this will imply that it will take some time before we do a new release.

WDTY,
Robert

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6656
[2] https://github.com/apache/maven/compare/MNG-6656?expand=1

Regardless of how good this sounds/is, we have quite other substantional issues to solve first this year, this is not a real world problem which needs to be solved instantly:

1. I would expect a formal vote for the bump and the justification for it.
2. Fix behavior changes for 3.7.0, update plugins (infrastructure if you like) 3. Really really clean up JIRA. We have *1864* unresolved issues! It *cannot* go on like that forever. I've been working hard this year to push a lot of components like SCM, Wagon, etc. Even in 3.6.2 I have addressed 25 issues.

Personally, I don't have any motivation nor the mental/physical fitness and especially time to make any substantial contributions except leaving comments on JIRA issues or reviewing a PR at most for the next three to six months. I also won't participate in any further in-depth discussion for 3.7.0 for the reasons I have mentioned previously. I just don't see it fruitful.
The technical debt we have is huge and we are not able to handle it.

This is not intended to diminish your work anyhow, but to express our current situation from my personal view.

Michael

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