Did we already do mvn or mvn plugins (multimodules) release with the
consumer/producer pom feature?
If so +1 to do a v4 with this new feature "for us" and v5 with real user
features and align it with the xsd.

Le jeu. 12 nov. 2020 à 20:00, Robert Scholte <[email protected]> a
écrit :

> Hi,
>
> It is already several years ago where we started discussing about Maven
> Next Generations.
> Clearly we needed to work on the pom, because over time we're facing more
> and more limitations.
> For (Maven) Central the Model 4.0.0 will be required pom format, there's
> no discussion about that. So we needed a new architecture where there's a
> local pom that is transformed to Model 4.0.0 or where it can be generated.
> With the implementation of MNG-6656 and the improvement with MNG-6957
> we've made the first and important steps based on pom transformation. If
> this concept proofs itself, we can start thinking about enhancing the pom
> model.
>
> When talking about Model 5.0.0 it looked like it would be great to
> introduce it for Maven 5. There was even a period where we thought about
> skipping Maven 4, just to sync the Model version with the Maven version.
> However, we discovered that this would be a huge change, and that we would
> probably need a couple of Maven 4 releases before moving to Maven 5. Maven
> 4 would consist of preparation releases.
> I've started writing the build/consumer to proof that the it is indeed
> possible to separate the local pom from the distributed pom, even though
> they both are currently still Model 4.0.0 compatible.
> The original idea was:
> Maven 3: build/consumer feature disabled by default
> Maven 4: build/consumer feature enabled by default
>
> Maven 5: Model 5
>
> We were worried that this wouldn't give us enough feedback.
> maven-integration-testing shows that build/consumer does work. There should
> be enough trust to enable it by default, it shouldn't impact existing
> projects (the last find by Michael was actually great. It demonstrated the
> effect when using threads. The fix made sense and Maven was stable again).
> But it is simply not enough. We need much more feedback.
>
> Meanwhile other improvements have been done, that has impact:
> - new behavior of reactor commandline arguments
> - upgrade of default versions of plugins per packaging type
> - requiring Java 8
> - Maven wrapper
> - there's a PR waiting that will shift the logic of the
> ProjectBuilder/ModelBuilder. As this is quite important for more people to
> understand, I'll record a Q&A with Maarten+Martin soon and share it with
> you.
> There are probably more, but all these already defend my opinion about the
> next Maven version.
>
> To me it is not a Maven 3 anymore, we're reached a point where we should
> start calling it Maven 4.
> The next release should probably have an alpha suffix, just to give users
> the chance to do alpha testing.
>
> WDYT?
> Robert
>
>

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