very good idea

such an alpha will also be the opportunity to test MNG-5001 = really check 
@readonly Mojo parameter, with warning instead of failure, because it seems 
there are unexpected side effects for example on maven-site-plugin

Regards,

Hervé

Le jeudi 12 novembre 2020, 20:00:21 CET Robert Scholte a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> It is already several years ago where we started discussing about Maven Next
> Generations. Clearly we needed to work on the pom, because over time we're
> facing more and more limitations. For (Maven) Central the Model 4.0.0 will
> be required pom format, there's no discussion about that. So we needed a
> new architecture where there's a local pom that is transformed to Model
> 4.0.0 or where it can be generated. With the implementation of MNG-6656 and
> the improvement with MNG-6957 we've made the first and important steps
> based on pom transformation. If this concept proofs itself, we can start
> thinking about enhancing the pom model.
> 
> When talking about Model 5.0.0 it looked like it would be great to introduce
> it for Maven 5. There was even a period where we thought about skipping
> Maven 4, just to sync the Model version with the Maven version. However, we
> discovered that this would be a huge change, and that we would probably
> need a couple of Maven 4 releases before moving to Maven 5. Maven 4 would
> consist of preparation releases. I've started writing the build/consumer to
> proof that the it is indeed possible to separate the local pom from the
> distributed pom, even though they both are currently still Model 4.0.0
> compatible. The original idea was:
> Maven 3: build/consumer feature disabled by default
> Maven 4: build/consumer feature enabled by default
> 
> Maven 5: Model 5
> 
> We were worried that this wouldn't give us enough feedback.
> maven-integration-testing shows that build/consumer does work. There should
> be enough trust to enable it by default, it shouldn't impact existing
> projects (the last find by Michael was actually great. It demonstrated the
> effect when using threads. The fix made sense and Maven was stable again).
> But it is simply not enough. We need much more feedback.
> 
> Meanwhile other improvements have been done, that has impact:
> - new behavior of reactor commandline arguments
> - upgrade of default versions of plugins per packaging type
> - requiring Java 8
> - Maven wrapper
> - there's a PR waiting that will shift the logic of the
> ProjectBuilder/ModelBuilder. As this is quite important for more people to
> understand, I'll record a Q&A with Maarten+Martin soon and share it with
> you. There are probably more, but all these already defend my opinion about
> the next Maven version.
> 
> To me it is not a Maven 3 anymore, we're reached a point where we should
> start calling it Maven 4. The next release should probably have an alpha
> suffix, just to give users the chance to do alpha testing.
> 
> WDYT?
> Robert





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