thank you Romain for your view

current reasoning behind 3.8.0 choice is written in release notes [1]

-  Why not 3.6.4?
This is not just a bugfix as it contains three features that cause a change of 
default behavior (external HTTP insecure URLs are now blocked by default): your 
builds may fail when using this new Maven release, if you use now blocked 
repositories. Please check and eventually fix before upgrading.

- Why not 3.7.0?
Apache Maven 3.7.0 has been advertised in the past that it would be the first 
release where you could optionally activate the build/consumer feature: the 
version containing this feature has been renamed to 4.0.0. Reusing 3.7.0 might 
lead to confusion, hence we picked the next available minor version.


I personally have a strong feeling against 3.6.4: it's not just a bugfix, it 
would cause surprises to users upgrading with full confidence.

On 3.7 vs 3.8, reasoning is fully written. We skipped versions in the past, 
it's not a big deal.

tm me, 3.8.0 is the best choice for users (and if they have questions why this 
version, they have 2 little answers in the release notes)

Regards,

Hervé


[1] 
https://maven.apache.org/docs/3.8.0/release-notes.html#why-does-this-version-have-the-value-3-8-0

Le dimanche 28 mars 2021, 11:47:11 CEST Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> Before we reroll the failed 3.8.0 I'd like we discuss openly the next
> versioning since it seems we didn't reach a consensus yet and trying to not
> create too much friction for users and in the community.
> 
> As a reminder the only feature the release will get is to prevent HTTP repo
> (in favor of HTTPS ones). In that regard it is a breaking change if users
> rely on HTTP repo but a security fix (I don't come back on the HTTP ->
> HTTPS move IT ecosystem got recently here).
> 
> So it seems there are multiple versioning options:
> 
> 1. 3.6.4: seems natural since it is a security fix, enables companies to
> get this fix respecting a project versioning policy without having to
> upgrade and avoids us to have to maintain 3.6 + 3.7/3.8 and soon 4.x.
> Indeed it requires a very well documented paragraph about this change and
> how to workaround it (local proxy/mirror is a trivial one for example) but
> it will be the case whatever version we pick anyway IMHO.
> 2. 3.7.0: since it is a breaking change it can seem natural too (but has
> the pitfall to likely require a backport in 3.6 anyway, due to the
> versioning policies which can prevent some users to upgrade to a 3.7)
> 3. 3.8.0: was the vote, seems the rational was that originally we
> targetting mvnw in 3.7 and since we didn't make it 3.8 was used. Have to
> admit I'm not sure of this reasoning more than that (cause for me if we
> don't have a planned feature we can either try to push/wait for it or
> postpone it but not skip a version due to that) so if anyone wants to
> complete the reasoning here it would be great.
> 
> Indeed my preference is for 3.6.4 which has the most advantages for
> everyone and no additional drawbacks compared to 3.7 or 3.8 options until
> we try to push to get mvnw in which would mean 3.7 becomes more natural
> (and likely imply a 3.6.x maintenance version).
> 
> Goal of this thread is to feel the overall trend and see if we can refine
> the proposals (for example: can we drop 3.8 one and only keep 3.7 and 3.6
> or - best - can we refine it to a single version after some exchanges).
> If we keep a few proposals after some days, what about a vote where the
> majority wins - we would just need to define how we count,
> bindings/committers/all (my preference being last one indeed)?
> 
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <https://github.com/rmannibucau>
> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
> <https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >





---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected]
For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]

Reply via email to