Hi Tamas, I don't share the analyzis (and if I would have to vote it would
be rather negative).
Concretely I don't think "This makes it clear that ONLY 72h is totally
anti-community and disrespectful."  is accurate, less than an off day
(sunday) can be but 3 days is generally okish.

That said, nobody prevents you to keep a vote running for 1 month, will
likely makes it even less interesting, more blocking between projects and
ultimately harder to follow for voters from my experience so I tend to
think that even if I strongly share the intent, the solution is not that
great and does not address the actual issue...in particular cause it always
had been allowed by asf to do so, 3 days is a min.

Keep in mind maven is a very split ecosystem and you can rarely vote on
everything either by knowledge or by time. Ultimately it could makes sense
to think to split the community/decrease the number of repos/... (thinking
out loud trying to find solution to the issue you describe).

So maybe start by a check of the last votes you consider being bad, and ask
why people didnt vote and if there is a way to make them more included or
if the issue is something else (on a personal side I know I tend to ignore
the votes on projects I never use/contribute to for ex).

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Le ven. 12 mai 2023 à 11:32, Tamás Cservenák <csta...@apache.org> a écrit :

> Howdy,
>
> I'd like to propose a change to the ASF Maven voting process (in line with
> ASF guidelines):
> CHANGE the current "vote open for at least 72h" window to "vote open for at
> least 30 days, or more".
>
> Reasoning:
> According to paperwork (ASF stats) we have more than 90 voters available
> (PMCs + committers).
> Still, multiple release votes recently were able to pass the "doorstep"
> only by "hunting down" voters and pulling their sleeves (apologies and
> thanks to them). This makes it clear that ONLY 72h is totally
> anti-community and disrespectful. Nobody's sleeve should be pulled. That's
> disrespectful for sleeves as well (except if you wear a T-shirt). We must
> serve our project community in the best manner, and let our voters be able
> to cast well thought votes in a timely manner, hence increasing the
> irrationally short window of opportunity for casting votes IS A MUST. And
> leave the sleeves alone.
>
> Sorry, but the vote is open for at least 72 hours ONLY.
>
> [ ] +1
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -1
>

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