I'm having trouble reading this email, hang on, let me adjust the rabbit
ears on my black and white television... ah better now. I'm sorry what were
you saying? :-)

Gary

On Mon, Jun 5, 2023, 07:22 Elliotte Rusty Harold <elh...@ibiblio.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 10:59 AM Delany <delany.middle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think the point I'm making is no-one wants to write in an older version
> > of the language they started writing in. Its tedious. Anyone who started
> > writing java11 code is going to have a hard time accepting they need to
> > write in java8, just as a java8 will bulk at writing in java5. Of course
> > for the oldies it just feels nostalgic.
> >
>
> Strongly disagree. I personally would strongly prefer to stick to Java
> *7*, although these days I use mostly 8 and 11. IMHO Java 8 and Java
> 11 were significant downgrades for clarity of code and ease of use.
> While there were some nice improvements in libraries and VM in those
> versions, they are completely swamped by the truly awful lambda syntax
> and the useless pain of the Java Platform Module System.
>
> Nor is it like we've finished the work of migrating onto Java 8. Just
> this past week I replaced some code that hasn't been needed since Java
> *1.4*.
>
> Migrating to still newer Java versions is a distraction from far more
> important work. We haven't even moved all the plugins off Java 7 yet.
> The burden of proof is on people who want to migrate to Java 17 to
> show how that will improve the project. That burden has not been met.
>
> --
> Elliotte Rusty Harold
> elh...@ibiblio.org
>
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