Given that jar (spring boot fatjar) is once this once that, you refer to it
in deps as needed:
in one module is fat:jar in other is fat:module, as needed.

You are the one explicitly telling what you want.

Thanks
T

On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 8:42 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Interesting but common case: a module dep is a module in compile/some tests
> but not at runtime (spring boot fatjar).
> Back to explicit config in plugins and drop new module type?
>
> Le dim. 29 oct. 2023 à 07:46, Christoph Läubrich <m...@laeubi-soft.de> a
> écrit :
>
> >  > where properties are totally extensible,
> >
> > And if now I could supply additional properties from the xml-model ...
> >
> > Am 29.10.23 um 00:40 schrieb Tamás Cservenák:
> > > And finally this is hardly gonna happen in Maven 3 lifespan, as sadly
> > > ArtifactHandler of it is quite limited: has only one flag:
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/maven-3.9.x/maven-artifact/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/artifact/handler/ArtifactHandler.java#L55
> > >
> > > Sadly, Maven4 Type continued on this path, but luckily we are in alpha,
> > and
> > > will propose a PR to type that currently looks like this:
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/maven/blob/master/api/maven-api-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/api/Type.java#L80
> > >
> > > And would rework it to be more (if not same as) the resolver
> > ArtifactType:
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/maven-resolver/blob/master/maven-resolver-api/src/main/java/org/eclipse/aether/artifact/ArtifactType.java#L63
> > >
> > > where properties are totally extensible, for example "add to classpath"
> > is
> > > really just one flag (added by ArifactType):
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/maven-resolver/blob/master/maven-resolver-api/src/main/java/org/eclipse/aether/artifact/ArtifactProperties.java#L58
> > >
> > > So, ArtifactProperties could be extended with "constitutesModulePath",
> > > "agent" and so on... To make this really extensible.
> > >
> > > In maven3 the ArtifactHandler this makes it impossible. There is still
> > hope
> > > in Maven 4
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > T
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:32 AM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> This would also mean, that if you have a dependency that is already
> JPMS
> > >> modularized (is java9+ and has module-info), then:
> > >>
> > >> a) if you declare it as type="jar" it means you want to put it on
> > >> classpath (use it as "plain old jar")
> > >> b) if you declare it as type="module" it means you want it on
> modulepath
> > >> etc
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:30 AM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Of course, the logic HOW and WHAT to make with these would be needed
> to
> > >>> be added to javadoc, compiler and all the plugins that need to
> > distinguish.
> > >>> But this would stop any need for any heuristic, guesswork,
> smart-ness,
> > >>> etc...
> > >>>
> > >>> OTOH, if we introduce new packaging lifecycle "module" (so a project
> > that
> > >>> builds module would do project/packaging=module), it could nicely
> > enforce
> > >>> things like:
> > >>> - prevent non allowed packages
> > >>> - enforce presence of module-info.class (maybe some light
> verification)
> > >>> - ensure project is Java9+ etc
> > >>>
> > >>> Most of this was somewhat done in Takari Lifecycle (also with custom
> > >>> packaging like "takari-jar" was).
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> T
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:26 AM Tamás Cservenák <
> ta...@cservenak.net>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> So, basically this is what am proposing:
> > >>>> https://gist.github.com/cstamas/76f262538b5a11f6ee23d6d8c86f10ec
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Basically, Maven core (and hence plugins) could distinguish among
> > >>>> different "types" of dependencies (while would all still be plain
> > JARs).
> > >>>> So "jar" would be put on classpath, "module" on module path, "agent"
> > >>>> would got special treatment and so on.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Point is to _differentiate_.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> T
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:21 AM Tamás Cservenák <
> ta...@cservenak.net
> > >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Unsure from where you get that, but is wrong conclusion.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You can have dep1:jar, dep2:module, dep3:agent and all 3 MAY
> > >>>>> (ArtifactHandler dependent, assuming "jar", "module" and "agent"
> > artifact
> > >>>>> handlers all return extension=jar) refer to the same JAR file in
> > your local
> > >>>>> repository.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Type merely adds "semantics" WHAT is it about, HOW to make use of
> it.
> > >>>>> Please see
> > >>>>>
> >
> https://maven.apache.org/repositories/artifacts.html#but-where-do-i-set-artifact-extension
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>> T
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:17 AM Martin Desruisseaux <
> > >>>>> martin.desruisse...@geomatys.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Le 2023-10-28 à 22 h 54, Tamás Cservenák a écrit :
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I still see these just as new dependency types: "module",
> "agent",
> > >>>>>>> "doclet", and so on.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Does "dependency type" means the <type> element inside
> <dependency>?
> > >>>>>> If
> > >>>>>> yes, then specifying a different type causes Maven to download a
> > >>>>>> different JAR, without changing the kind of path (class path
> versus
> > >>>>>> module path) where the JAR is put. The proposed <usage> element
> (or
> > >>>>>> whatever equivalent alternatives) has the opposite semantic: it
> does
> > >>>>>> not
> > >>>>>> change the JAR to download, but put it on a different kind of
> path.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       Martin
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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