> we need to think about companies that pay for old JDK support There was a suggestion on slack that companies could provide "dev and release manager" for Maven 3 and manage the JDK 8 Maven 3 until they lose interest. This already works well for other projects.
Even if no one stands up for volunteering: Maven 3 will continue to work just fine, even after releases of Maven 4. About the companies who run their own JDK team: Well, they made that a conscious decision. They surely had planned for versions after Java 8. If not, I don't see why we should take their problem and make it ours. - Ben On Mon, 5 Feb 2024, 23:15 Gary Gregory, <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > An interesting question for me is whether we need to think about companies > that pay for old JDK support and how that affects our support for these old > JDKs. > > Gary > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024, 4:28 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold <elh...@ibiblio.org> > wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 2:22 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Elliotte, > > > > > Java 11 support is already EOL for most vendor until you go "premium" > > > flavor which will likely be very few people and most of them will be > able > > > to pay somebody to backport the needed stuff in custom distro of their > > work > > > if needed anyday so not sure we should consider it. > > > > At least three big tech companies I know of build their own JDKs. At > > least one, possibly two, ship and support older JDKs for their > > customers. None of them are tied to Oracle and what Oracle is willing > > to support. If Oracle and all its data went to the great bit bucket in > > the sky tomorrow, they'd keep right on rolling. It would not even be a > > speed bump. They don't pay for premium support. They compete to > > provide premium support.* > > > > * There are some caveats here I won't go into for confidentiality > > reasons, but I can say that Azul's business model works. > > > > > On the other side most libraries tend to move forward faster and if you > > > like big ones, i'll take Spring or JakartaEE as an example - big user > > base > > > rather than big company$ ;) - and they don't even support Java 11 > > anymore. > > > > Used by big tech customers. Not so much used by big tech companies > > themselves, that tend to run on stacks developed in house over more > > than a decade. > > > > -- > > Elliotte Rusty Harold > > elh...@ibiblio.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > >
