1 or 2 (there are iso from an user perspective imho even if help plugins
looks natural)

Rather not 3 for me by design and to keep it light

Maybe 5: external self contained tool (always better to check a soft cause
if tool cant run your tool is useless: here if mvn doesnt run you cant
check anything and if maven runs help plugin is 100% designed for such
additional checks).

Le jeu. 9 mai 2024 à 15:53, Maarten Mulders <mthmuld...@apache.org> a
écrit :

> On 26/04/2024 15:11, Juul Hobert wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > It's been a while since changes have been made to MNG-6869. It adds
> helpful
> > functionality that is particularly useful when you're on a company
> network
> > and want to do some basic checks to verify if Maven is working. This will
> > be helpful for a large group of users and helps in solving basic issues
> and
> > therefore could reduce false issues being reported about "Maven not
> > working". The pull request unsatisfyingly ended up in a discussion where
> > three flavors came across: implement it in core, in a plugin or in an
> > extension.
> >
> >
> > In summary the following arguments apply to the three different flavors:
> >
> >
> > Move it to a plugin
> >
> > + Does not introduce extra complexity in core
> >
> > - Needs additional downloads and could fail before the basic checks occur
> >
> >
> > Move it to an extension
> >
> > + Does not introduce extra complexity in core
> >
> > - Requires additional installation steps before it can be used (we could
> > consider to ship the extension with Maven to circumvent that)
> >
> >
> > Put it in core
> >
> > + Works without requiring additional downloads / installation steps
> >
> > + Can do all basic checks
> >
> >
> >
> > I like to know how the community thinks about this, so please reply
> briefly
> > with the following if you have a opinion about it:
> >
> > - "1" for plugin
> >
> > - "2" for extension
> >
> > - "3" for core
> >
> > - "4" drop the idea, close the ticket
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm planning to work on it on the 10th of May and would like to continue
> > working on it then. I would appreciate it if replies are given before
> this
> > date.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Juul Hobert,
> >
> > also on behalf of Giovanni van der Schelde
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> I think that having more troubleshooting capabilities for non-working
> Maven installations would be very useful. So "4" is not an option for me.
>
> Given this purpose I feel that anything that doesn't ship with Maven by
> default would defeat that goal. That drops "1" for me, and also "2" if
> it had to be installed manually.
>
> So I would vote for "3", or for "2" iff that extension would be included
> in the official Maven distribution.
>
> Thanks for your efforts, Juul & Giovanni!
>
>
> Maarten
>
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