I've pushed an update POC at
  https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/1209
There are clearly some things to adjust.

I'd be happy with a quick look from people experienced with tiles to check
that it makes sense.


Le lun. 17 mars 2025 à 09:17, Fred Cooke <fred.co...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> I didn't summarise why it doesn't belong in maven, I summarised existing
> uses across dozens of companies past and present. This is the current
> reality for sophisticated users of the tiles plugin with M3. Not some pie
> in the sky dream. I'm here because it sounded to me like that wasn't a
> guaranteed future and that's not a future I want to see.
>
> New paradigm to some readers, near decade old paradigm to some others.
>
> It's a core issue in the architecture of maven that motivated tiles,
> mixins, and the like - it seems to me that the ultimate place to fix that
> 20 year old design issue is IN Maven and put it to rest once and for all,
> authoritatively, from the source.
>
> But as long as there's some way of achieving the same effects, that's fine.
> Ideally keeping the existing tile ecosystems usable and not having to
> reengineer and release every single one in some new format/style  - but
> even that would be better than not having equivalent functionality
> available in some form.
>
> Thanks to everyone actively discussing this - I truly appreciate it. Tiles
> has literally been life-changing for me, I value it more than words can
> describe.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 at 03:14, Elliotte Rusty Harold <elh...@ibiblio.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 1:55 PM Fred Cooke <fred.co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > You are *severely* downplaying what tiles are used for - it's not
> "parent
> > > duplication avoidance" it's an entirely new paradigm and when fully
> > > leveraged it leaves everything else for dead.
> >
> > Thanks for summarizing why this doesn't belong in Maven. An entirely
> > new paradigm needs an entirely new tool and platform. It shouldn't try
> > to work inside and be limited by compatibility with the old tool and
> > platform.
> >
> > I wouldn't be all that surprised if this is a better build system than
> > Maven, but it doesn't need to be in Maven.
> >
> > --
> > Elliotte Rusty Harold
> > elh...@ibiblio.org
> >
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