Le lun. 15 sept. 2025 à 14:49, Thomas Reinhardt <tho...@reinhardt.com> a
écrit :

>
> Wow, I missed that one.
>
> I'm not sure I like this kind of automatism (module discovery).
>
> Maybe this also breaks some plugins? For example: I have more than one
> custom plugin that simply reads the root POM and extracts the modules
> for further processing. Of course that also ignores modules in profiles
> so maybe a non-issue there. I have to think more about this.
>
> Also, seems to be a good way to slow down your builds. Scanning
> directories is somehow expensive on some platforms.
>

It's only direct subdirectories (first level) which are scanned, so it
cannot be insanely slow.


>
> But if I am stating a <modules> (or the now preferred <subprojects>)
> section in my root POM this behavior is disabled and only my actually
> defined modules/subprojects are considered, right?
>

This is not specific to the root POM.  But yes, this behavior won't kick in
for a given POM
* if you have any explicit list of subprojects/modules in the POM
* or if the modelVersion is 4.0.0
* or if the packaging isn't `pom`
The second assertion makes sure it cannot break existing Maven 3 projects.

But as I said, it's missing a verification that no profiles on this POM
defines a subproject/module.
THis is required in order to be able to activate some subprojects using
profiles, without having
any default subprojects when not using any specific profile.


>
>
>
> Greeings,
>         Thomas Reinhardt
>
> On 15/09/2025 11:02, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> > I just replied on the issue.  This is the expected behavior for:
> > * 4.1.0 models
> > * which have a `pom` packaging
> > * which defines no subprojects/modules
> > In such cases, all direct subdirectories which contain a pom will be
> > considered as subprojects.
> >
> > However, I think the original idea of the rule `which defines no
> > subprojects/modules` was to also check for profiles, else, there would be
> > no way to actually enable/disable some subprojects based on a profile,
> > which may be what #11114 is about.
> >
> > Le ven. 12 sept. 2025 à 16:24, Nikita Skvortsov
> > <nikita.skvort...@jetbrains.com.invalid> a écrit :
> >
> >> Dear developers,
> >>
> >> My colleague, +Alexander Bubenchikov <
> alexander.bubenchi...@jetbrains.com>
> >> discovered an interesting behavior of Maven 4.0.0-rc-4.  In short, Maven
> >> picks up subprojects from subdirectories *without any
> modules/subprojects
> >> definition* in pom.xml (reported as  #11114
> >> <https://github.com/apache/maven/issues/11114>).
> >>
> >> Is it an expected behavior?
> >> ---
> >> Nikita Skvortsov
> >> Java Build Tools Team Lead
> >>
> >> JetBrains N.V. | KvK reg. nr. 56460279
> >> Gelrestraat 16, 1079 MZ Amsterdam, The Netherlands
> >> T: + 31 (0)20 205 01 18 | F: +31 (0)20 205 01 19
> >> E: nikita.skvort...@jetbrains.com
> >>
> >
> >
>
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