Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the positive feedback and brainstorming.  I made some specific suggestions 
on JIRA, I'll repeat them here and incorporate/respond-to some suggestions made on the 
list.

 1)  Ensure backward-compatibility.  One solution is to create a property setting to 
cause properties.xml and goals.xml to always be overwritten, with a default value of 
'false'.  We can't have an updated plugin clobber existing hand-written docs. 
Alternatively if we moved the generated properties.xml and goals.xml to a generated 
docs folder, we could generate them only if they don't exist in the xdocs (source) 
folder.  That way plugin authors could remove their hand-written docs after updating 
plugin.jelly and/or plugin.properties to turn on auto-generation.  In any event, I 
think the generation should be a one-way process.  Synchronization would be too 
complicated with little benefit.

 2) Move properties.xml and goals.xml to the "generated-xdocs" folder.  It is not 
maven-like to have generated docs in a source directory (unless they are just being 
generated as "skeletons") this could also be part of the solution to #1.

 3) Create a plugin-properties.xml file that can be used to generate both 
plugin.properties and properties.xml. The xml format can have fields for "Optional", 
"Default value", "Description', etc.    Miguel Griffa may be hinting that the 
properties definitions/documentation could be added to plugin.jelly.  Either way the 
plugin.properties file would become a generated file.  I think using XML is a better 
solution than inventing another  JavaDoc like parser. 

 4) Add a <description> child element to the <goal> element in plugin.jelly so a 
longer description (with markup?) can be maintained right there.  I'm not sure if HTML 
markup can be incorporated in plugin.jelly (I don't know what kind of 
parsers/validation are currently being used.)

5) If all of the above are implemented, an undocumented properties report is probably 
not necessary, but could be added as an additional mechanism for encouraging better 
documentation.

As I said, I'm  willing to contribute but I'll need help from some more experienced 
Maven folks.  Hopefully Dion Gillard will agree this is a useful improvement (again, 
for the post 1.0 time-frame)  and have some time to work on it.

I'm not comfortable with Jelly, etc. and I don't understand (well enough) how these 
kinds of changes will effect the overall Maven system, so  I can't create a patch by 
myself.  I'm willing to collect requirements, maintain a design document  and help 
with testing and debugging. I could take the contents of this e-mail, with additional 
feedback as it comes in, and move it into an xdoc for inclusion in the next 
plugin-plugin or elsewhere.  Since I'm developing my first plugin, I could use the new 
generation system for it, I could also help convert one or two existing plugins.

Regards,

Sean




> > the properties.xml could be generated with a more advanced
>> parsing and
>> maybe assuming all properties begin with the plugin name
>> followed by a '.'
>
>The problem will be to standardize the properties documentation and to
>parse the file.
>
># MY DOC
>xxx.xxxx.xxxx=yyyyyyyy
>
>
>>
>> Should synchronization be used?
>> Why not keep it a one way process?
>>
>> I think it doesn't make sense to add properties/goals in docs
>> which do
>> not exist in plugin.jelly, or does it?
>
>It can be a one-way process.
>We must add a report to automatically generate these files before the
>site.
>
>The problem is that in some plugins, the documentation of goals is very
>more detailled in the doc than in the plugin.jelly.
>In the goal's description you can't use HTML tags. For example :
>http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugins/dist/goals.html
>
>
>Arnaud.
>
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