I believe M2 has Groovy integration on its TODO list. Groovy, which is well documented, is gaining a lot of momentum and integrates with Ant. http://groovy.codehaus.org/
Cheers, Thomas On 8/21/05, John Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ralph, > > I'm sorry I haven't responded to this thread earlier, but I'm the guy to > talk to wrt marmalade. > > Unfortunately, since we've been trying like hell to get maven 2.0 out > the door for the last several months, I have let marmalade slip a bit. > However, I should mention that despite it's lack of documentation, this > is a stable and (I believe) completely usable set of libraries. I'm not > likely to have time to document the project for awhile to come (since > I'm sure you've noticed, maven 2.0 isn't out yet...and that's my first > priority), but if you have specific questions I'd be happy to answer them. > > I'll start by replying inline to your comments below: > > Ralph Goers wrote: > <snip/> > > | > | As for Marmalade, I am looking for an XML tag framework that I can limit > | to either a fixed set of tags that I implement, or an XML language that > | is easy to understand and can only perform operations on the objects it > | is provided with. > > As far as limiting the taglibs that are available, Marmalade uses a > stacked resolution strategy to discover tag libraries. This means it's > pretty simple to add your own strategy class as either the first-line > strategy, or as the only one...your strategy class might only allow > taglibs on an approved list to be discovered, and throw an exception > otherwise... > > As for only working with the objects it's given, Marmalade operates on a > Context which is essentially a scope-enabled hierarchy of maps, meaning > that the entire context is visible from any one point, but child > contexts can be added or removed to add/remove the variables associated > with those lower scopes. Anything in this context is available for > reading or manipulation, using a variety of expression languages (or > direct access from the tag implementation itself). > > Also, I noticed that you previously mentioned running Marmalade from the > command-line(?) or at least executing it outside of maven. I've created > the MarmaladeLauncher class to aid in this task, although I haven't had > time to write a CLI wrapper library for direct execution from the > command-line. Such a CLI would have to have a pretty sophisticated > parser IMO, in order to support stacking of discovery strategies, etc. > However, for specialized - and somewhat limited - purposes, writing a > simple Main class to launch marmalade by wrapping the MarmaladeLauncher > should be pretty trivial. The only real hurdle is understanding the > concepts of Marmalade, which I'll admit are poorly articulated the what > passes for current documentation. I'd suggest that you look at the > plexus-marmalade-factory or the MarmaladeLauncher unit tests for a crash > course in how that works. > > I have a couple of uses for these: > | 1. I'd like to use it to create symantic modules in drools > > For this, you'd just need something that would initialize the marmalade > context and launch the script...right? Sounds pretty simple. > > | 2. I'd like to create an event based flow controller for Cocoon > | (something like a more limited version of Javaflow - if that means > | anything to you). > > I'm not familiar with Javaflow, and this topic is a bit outside my > day-to-day wanderings. However, it seems to me that the event framework > is bound to be outside of Marmalade proper, with event actions being > Marmalade scripts or scriptlets...right? Again, it's just a matter of > initializing the context and launching the script via > MarmaladeLauncher...shouldn't be too difficult. > > Again, I want to reiterate that I'm available for specific questions. > That's the best I can offer until I have time to write up more doco on > Marmalade concepts and usage. > > Good luck! > > - -john > > > | > | BTW - I'm very familiar with the memory leak in jelly. I had to pretty > | much gut the multiproject plugin so it could build our website. It would > | die before it got half way through. > | > | And thanks for your time and the help. > | > | Ralph > | > <snip/> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFDCKBvK3h2CZwO/4URAlRjAJ9TgWQIqapToWwiZg6TlOqOOM21LACfSoOl > u6VfTwsXEWeTdZo7l8LZRRQ= > =4YSF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
