On Sun, 16 Oct 2005, Jason van Zyl wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 18:56 +0200, Kenney Westerhof wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >
> > -1:
>
> Definitely all points to take into consideration but a -1? A veto is
> generally used in extreme cases and is not something to be used lightly.
> Everything looks reasonable and a -0 would do in this case. I will
> certainly fix most things listed but please consider removing the veto
> as some points are subjective and I would not like to be restricted from
> publishing the site because of one persons objections. I would like to
> gather input from a wider audience and makes improvements as seen fit by
> the users as a whole.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize -1 was a veto! I just meant it as a 'No' :)

I'm adjusting my vote to -0.

>
> > 1) The left box should be a little wider so 'Project Documentation'
> > isn't wrapped. (this is also a problem with the current site - didn't
> > notice that earlier).
>
> It's not wrapped in Firefox, it appears fine to me. Are you using IE?

No, firefox, even on 1600x1200 fullscreen it's still wrapped. Default text
size.

>
> > 2)
> >
> > General Information
> > For Maven 1.0 Users
> >
> > looks like 1 item to me, although they are actually 2. Maybe add >
> > or bullets, or a little more whitespace between the lines?
>
> Ok. Generally the > indicates a sub menu.

Well actually that'd be a filled >, like |>  :)

> > 3) The items under 'installing' don't all have to do with the
> > installation.  Usually max 7 items should be shown, each with their
> > own submenu (unfold?) that are NOT related - related items should
> > be grouped in submenus or something.
>
> Sure.
>
> > 4) The most visited links are I think: 'Project descriptor' and
> > 'Settings descriptor'. I can't find them (within 30 seconds).
>
> Possibly. But easy enough to add back into the main navigation.

Ofcourse, although I think they're too specific to be put on the main
site; they're not meant to be in the guides either. Maybe just a
'Reference' link to a page containing pom.xml, settings.xml, and the
lifecycle phases?

> > 5) Project Documentation -> not really docs, just reports. But that's a
> > problem of the site:site plugin.
>
> I would agree and can be fixed.
>
> > 6) 'Introduction' and 'About maven' are the same page.
>
> I agree that should be fixed too.
>


Allright! :) Sorry about the -1! Definitely a +100 for the guides part!

-- Kenney


> > Otherwise: +1 reduction of the amount of menu items shown - it was
> > very hard to find stuff - not sure this is the way to go though;
> > grouping guides is fine, but some info has gone from the main page and it
> > isn't clear to me where it can be found now.
> >
> > -- Kenney
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just wanted offer out the new site layout for a vote before publishing
> > > it to the main site:
> > >
> > > http://www.codehaus.org/~jvanzyl/maven2/
> > >
> > > You'll notice I've reduced the navigation on the left and placed all the
> > > documentation here:
> > >
> > > http://www.codehaus.org/~jvanzyl/maven2/guides/index.html
> > >
> > > There are still some documents that need some work but I think this will
> > > do for the release and I'll keep working on things.
> > >
> > > I'd also like to thank David Jackman, Bob Allison, Raphael Pieroni and
> > > Jay Hartley for their contributions on the documentation front. Much
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > --
> > > jvz.
> > >
> > > Jason van Zyl
> > > jason at maven.org
> > > http://maven.apache.org
> > >
> > > Simplex sigillum veri. (Simplicity is the seal of truth.)
> > >
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> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
> jason at maven.org
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