I'm +1 to add some infos on scm clearcase url but i need some explanations of 
infos

what is path_to_viewstore? Is it the path to directory where i want to checkout 
files?
In this case, url is different for each developers, right?

what is path_to_config_spec? Is it a file on the network that describe the view 
to create?

Emmanuel

Wim Deblauwe a écrit :
Testing this further, I can't get -stgloc to work, but I can do a succesful 'checkout' using -vws. What we need is encoding the location of the config spec and the value for the -vws option to get me started on implementing this case.

Suggestion:

scm:clearcase:[vws:path_to_viewstore]:[path_to_config_spec]

Example:
scm:clearcase:vws:\\mycomputer\cc_vws1:\\someserver\ClearCase\myproject\configspec.txt

The checkout command would then create a new snapshot view using the given config spec. Note that this config spec will need to include load rules and start with element * CHECKOUT, like this:

element * CHECKEDOUT
element * /main/LATEST
load \my_test_vob\modules\mymodule

What do you think about that?

If we implement this, it should allow the use of Continuum with ClearCase (which is my first goal :))

regards,

Wim

2005/11/30, Wim Deblauwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

    For information:
    
http://fisheye.cenqua.com/viewrep/luntbuild/luntbuild/src/com/luntsys/luntbuild/vcs/BaseClearcaseAdaptor.java?r=1.20
    
<http://fisheye.cenqua.com/viewrep/luntbuild/luntbuild/src/com/luntsys/luntbuild/vcs/BaseClearcaseAdaptor.java?r=1.20>

    This is the source code of luntbuild, which has support for
    ClearCase. This is basically what happens:

    - They require a property "Clearcase view storage name" or "
    Explicit path for view storage". These options are then used with
    cleartool as -stgloc or -vws respectivaly. I don't know exactly what
    is meant by that, but we probably could use the scm url to provide
    those properties.
    - They also require a config spec in their properties. We could
    encode this in the scm url by making users provide a path to a
    config spec on some (normal, non-clearcase) server. That file can
    then be as complicated as someone would like to make his config
    spec. Note, that for build a release, we can create a config spec
    ourselves because then we need to look at the tag of the release and
    nothing else should be looked at.

    - They first create a snapshot view
    - After that, they set the config spec on the snapshot view

    Dan, do you know more on the stgloc and vws options?

    regards,

    Wim


    2005/11/28, dan tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

        Hi Wim,
We keep our config spec file in a base SCM vob. Our config spec
        file contains
- A bunch of hardly change label ( thirdparty etc) - UCM label generated by clearcase for each new baseline ( new
        build)
For each build, we ask clearcase to do a new baseline which
        generates a bunch new labels for all UCM vobs.
        These info are placed/replaced UCM labels in the config spec
        file.  Then the file is labeled.  So in order to build/rebuild
        all we need is to
- Creat a SCM to retreive the config spec on a particular label
          - Create new another view with that config spec file.
          - Build.
          - Cleanup by removing the created views
We can do the similar to your case by labeling all vobs and
        their files using one label.  But this labeling process is
        very slow and long since we have so many vobs and files to
        label. Our current legacy buid is doing exactly that
        and it takes about 2 hours to do the label.
-Dan

On 11/24/05, *Wim Deblauwe* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

            So Dan, you keep your config spec in ClearCase? But to build
            a release, you only need a config spec looking at the label.
            What is more in your config spec? Or am I not understanding
            things completely perhaps?

            regards,

            Wim

            2005/11/24, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
            <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:



                dan tran a écrit :


 On 11/24/05, *Emmanuel Venisse* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:



    dan tran a écrit :
     > Wim, it looks good to me from base SCM
                configuration perspective.
     >
     > I use a mixture of UCM and base SCM
                configurations.  I keep the
     > configspec file
     > in base SCM.  At the time doing the label, I
                update the confispec
    file
     > and label that
     > config spec only.
     >
     > At the perform step, i then create a view and
                load that
    configspec file
     > base the label
     >
     > and the rest is the same as yours.
     >
     > so our maven-scm's checkout and label command
                will be
    different.  But we
     > both use a
     > config spec file during checkout.
     >
     > Emmanuel, how would we go about implementing
                these commands?

    I don't know, you are our clearcase experts there.


 I meant from interface perspective since we are going
                to have 2
 diffirent behaviors of
 checkout and label.

 it is going to be 2 diffrent provider plexus
                components with some common
 commands?

                So, checkout and label commands are different for you
                and Wim, right?
                I think we need to keep only one clearcase provider. The
                svn url for clearcase is too simple, we can
                perhaps modify it with type of clearcase configuration,
                and in checkout/label command, you check the
                type of configuration and execute correct clearcase
                commands.

                WDYT?


     >
     > I will be out to town with limited access to
                internet.  Will discuss
     > more when I get back.
     >
     > -D
     >
     >
     >
     >
     > On 11/23/05, *Wim Deblauwe* <
                [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
     > <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:
                [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>
    wrote:
     >
     >     Hi,
     >
     >     to make release:perform work on ClearCase we
                need to
    implement the
     >     'checkout' command for ClearCase (this is
                not what ClearCase user
     >     would call checkout!). As I understand it,
                'checkout' should
    copy
     >     the files (with a certain tag) from the
                source control system
    to a
     >     certain directory and then the build should
                start on those
    files. So
     >     this is what we need for ClearCase:
     >
     >     - create a view with a config spec: Since we
                need to look at a
     >     released version and it has been labeled in
                release:prepare
    if all
     >     is ok, we only need 1 line in the config
                spec, like this
     >
     >     ELEMENT * RLS_MYPROJECT_V1.0
     >
     >     - mount the correct vob. Don't know if this
                is really
    necessairy,
     >     the correct vob should normally already be
                mounted
     >     - cd to the created view
     >     - copy everything to a directory (or run the
                build from the newly
     >     created view?)
     >
     >     This is the commando's I think we will need
                to call:
     >
     >     // First create the view
     >     cleartool mkview -tag maven_release_build_view
>
                \\MYCOMPUTER\cc_vws1\maven_release_build_view.vws
     >     // Assign the correct config spec
     >     [Create a temp file called configspec.txt
                with the config
    spec in it]
     >     cleartool setcs -tag
                maven_release_build_view configspec.txt
     >     [Following 2 lines maybe better left out for
                now]
     >     cleartool umount -all
     >     cleartool mount \my_own_vob
     >
     >     //Do the build here
     >
     >     //Call the following line after the build -
                If this is not
    possible
     >     to call after the build, run it at the start
                of the next build
     >     cleartool rmview -force -tag
                maven_release_build_view
     >
     >
     >     anybody who agrees or disagrees, please
                comment!
     >
     >     regards,
     >
     >     Wim
     >
     >








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