Carlos Sanchez a écrit :
On 12/1/05, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Carlos Sanchez wrote:
Acegi is based in servlet filters for the protection of urls, so the
web framework used won't impact its use.
That's great. Does it still require spring to be configured though? We
already have a massive download - I'd really like to reduce our
dependency set.
You could be able to configure it in other way. Spring basically just
call getters and setters. However some classes implement Spring
interfaces and makes use of Spring tools. My first though and i think
John agrees with me is let's include first Spring jars, and after
worry about removing unneeded stuff.
I was in a project using JSF and seems that it's adoption is getting
speed, with different implementations and a lot of extensions,
utilities and tools. I've heard very good things about using
Facelets+JSF to create components, and also about Spring MVC, but
seems to me that people using Spring MVC is moving to JSF.
I've heard a lot of negative points about its use without tools support
too. However I haven't done the necessary investigation. I flicked
through some examples and found the pages almost illegible for the
number of tags for a simple form, and haven't really seen an example of
templating (perhaps that is meant to be external?)
Yes, the spec by itself is not a good idea, you should use tools
available. MyFaces provides some cool stuff, new components,... There
are emerging a lot of projects surrounding JSF
I suggest this read http://jroller.com/page/RickHigh
Although I don't have experience with either Spring MVC or WebWork, at
least with an action framework and JSP/velocity its a bit familiar - I'd
be worried about the learning curve of JSF as a barrier to contribution.
I get the feeling WW will be easy to learn for your average struts
veteran :)
I don't find it that difficult, and I think in a year new people will
stop learning Struts, and go for JSF. I'm pretty sure that a high
perecent of people willing to help will be *new* people, from
universities and so, more than *old* people
I never used JSF, but i've heard too some negatives points. I think it's more simple to do the
migration to jsp technology because (if we need some help, tools, components...) lot of resources
are available
Of those, WW seems the best choice to me as it is coming to Apache and
is the more mature solution, and probably most familiar wrt summit.
I'd also endorse the use of sitemesh. That is a servlet filter that sits
in front of the app to "skin" it. It's very fast, and easy to use.
There's really good integration between myfaces and tiles, it composes
tha pages transparently for you.
Cheers,
Brett
