comments inline...

1) should we drop the standard reports from the maven site?

I would agree with that 'new brand of puppy chow' version of this
question...I would keep these generating though to a 'old style' link
until something better is all hammered out and in place..


2) JIRA & documentation

Can anyone explain what the documentation version is for?

my bet is on documentation containing differences for older version of
software still in use, api changes and documents detailing those kinda
differences...

What do others think about merging the documentation categories for now,
since we seem to agree this isn't the right breakdown of docs? (I saw a
couple of dupes when I surfed across categories, but none within a
single one). This gives a more managable task list.

+1

3) What is the role of the wiki?

Wendy made some very good points about the accessibility of the wiki for
getting doc contributions, which I think is worth exploring, especially
since we can automatically bring it into the site.

However, it comes with the downside that it can be less thoroughly
reviewed and sometimes unstructured unless the person is really putting
some extra effort in.

So I think we have some alternatives:
- use the wiki for everything, auto generate site
- use the wiki for a specified section of the site, autogenerate (and
perhaps mark as being contributed)
- use the wiki as a holding area for new doc contributions

I'd go with a combo of the last 2. I think the cookbooks section should
have 2 parts - an apt/etc part and a contributed part autogenerated from
the wiki using Wendy's proposal (and possibly doing the same per plugin)

I'm in favour of using APT/local confluence markup for the main,
verified part of the site (would want an easy way to convert confluence
to APT, though).

Thoughts on these?

I support the idea of a lot of the content being developed on the wiki
and slurped into the main site simply.  But this is mildly difficult
since we do not want to lock all that process into confluence by any
means...so what if we were to have a custom template or something in
confluence and mapped a defined page x -> site x content mapping, and
in that custom template or whatever try and validate that the content
saved to the page adhered to a trimmed down set of tags that were
simular to apt, or at least we spit out errors and failed the site
generation in continuum if the pulling of text over from the
confluence didn't match a set of info...

basically anything that made the site really easy to make sure that
anyone who was working with it  followed strict guildlines format
wise.

would be really nice if we could pull a particular part of a wiki page
into the site and then surrounding that there could be comments and
whatnot and calls for improvement or what...say if the confluence page
of 'Welcome Page' had a table in it with and id of "content" and in
that table was the actual test for the page, and below that brett
could add something along the lines of 'todo: spruce up the welcome
text so that people know the difference between maven 1.x and latest
release of maven.

would be cooler still if there where multple tables (or whatever) with
ids for content in different translations and we could manage that
site content in different language through the same mechanism, all on
the same page...and an aggregating page that shows pages of text that
were missing translations for a particular language.  being able to
manage language translations through the wiki would make it easier for
people to contribute along those lines then working with properties
files and svn/patchs.

though if you take into account language translations and whatnot then
having the majority if not all of the website in the wiki starts
making more sense, perhaps even going so far as to say the plugins
could seed the wiki documentation effort automatically for english and
then translations based on that being pulled down for website
generation....depends on how fully you want to support
internationalization.

jesse

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jesseDOTmcconnellATgmailDOTcom

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