Jason van Zyl wrote:
Yah, I don't buy it. I don't know anyone who uses RPMs to do anything
with Java.
Actually, if you'll recall our conversations at ApacheCon I mentioned
something like that. RPMs make no sense because the ClassLoader can't
use them. They also make no sense because the same information should be
inside the jar (i.e. a jar and an RPM would essentially be equivalent
but use different packaging schemes). However, this is all moot because
standard java classloaders don't understand versioning. If they did we
wouldn't be having this conversation because, assuming the jar had all
the relevant information, it would make no sense to create an RPM as the
base OS (i.e. Linux) would have no business managing the contents of a
JVM since the JVM is essentially a different OS.
I suppose RPMs make sense in the isolated case of the OS actually
wanting to start some pre-packaged Java applications automatically. I'm
having a hard time how they'd be useful in most other circumstances though.
I guess I'd really like to understand how Fedora actually uses Java RPMs
in a way that actually works.
Ralph
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