Right...I guess it'd help to include the URL:

http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Deterministic+Lifecycle+Planning

Thanks!

-john

On Jan 29, 2008, at 4:58 PM, John Casey wrote:

Hi all,

I've written up the new features present in the refactored lifecycle support for 2.1, if anyone is interested in reading it. I'd like to hear what you all think, particularly about the emerging discussion of aggregator plugins, pre-exec "plugins", and such taking place on the page comments.

In brief, we have numerous problems with aggregator plugins, whether you're talking about binding these to a lifecycle phase, resolving dependencies of these plugins that actually are present in the current reactor, timing of execution (particularly in multimodule builds where the plugin needs the output of module builds, see the assembly plugin outstanding bugs for this one), and more. In addition, there has been an expressed need for a sort of pre-execution phase that would allow plugins to manipulate dependency lists, mojo bindings, etc. before the build proper starts. Finally, there is some discussion about mojos that can conditionally choose to fork a nested execution or not, depending on how they're used...which also brings up the idea of letting a mojo discover where and how it's being used.

IMO, these issues represent the next iteration of Maven build definition. They are the next frontier for the work we're trying to do in Maven in many ways, and it seems like they deserve a healthy design discussion each. In the case of aggregator plugins and the pre-execution phase, it may make more sense to go back to first principles and see whether we can come up with a single replacement solution to aggregators that would address both types of problem.

Please comment if you have an opinion on this.

Thanks,

-john

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