On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:44 AM, David Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Here's what it does:
By default, the LICENSE file is the standard apache license. The NOTICE file is generated from a velocity template; here's an example of the output
(between ----- lines which are not included)
------------------------------------------------------
Geronimo :: Directory Plugin
Copyright 2003-2008 Apache Software Foundation
This product includes software developed at
Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
------------------------------------------------------

In the 99% of the time when this is the correct LICENSE and NOTICE, that's all you do. In the remaining 1% of the time where additional information is
needed appended to these standard files, you put the additions in
src/main/appended-resources/LICENSE
and
src/main/appended-resources/NOTICE

In the remaining 0.1% of the time where the standard files are not correct you can arrange by other means to insert custom LICENSE and NOTICE files.

Looks good to me.

Two thoughts:

1) How is the end-year of the copyright done? AIUI, that should be the
year of last edit and not the year in which it is built. So if I build
something that hasn't been touched in a year, it should still have
last year's year on it.

I think it is the current year. I could argue that this is only relevant for releases, at which time the version in the pom has changed, and the pom is included in the artifacts, therefore something has changed, but that argument is a bit weak. Personally I think having a copyright date range from project inception to now is better than having definitely out-of-date NOTICE files included in most or all artifacts, which is positively assured if this process is done by hand.

Is this a blocker?


2) Add a macro language for the license/notice so it can pull things
in from the transitives when added in. It should also fail when it
can't find said license information. At least for the LICENSE part as
that applies to all licenses etc. I'm not sure we have NOTICEs in the
Maven repository.

I thought the whole point of the discussion up to now on what goes in LICENSE and NOTICE files is that they definitely apply to ONLY what is actually IN the artifact and not any of its dependencies or what might be required to actually use the artifact in any meaningful way. Given that I said that rolling up LICENSE and NOTICE files for artifacts that assemble and contain other artifacts such as wars and ears is out of scope for this proposal, I'm very confused about what you might be suggesting. Could you please clarify how this macro language would apply to this proposal?

I'd really prefer to discuss the actual possibility of using exactly what I am proposing in this thread on legal-discuss and discuss possible enhancements and improvements elsewhere. There is a gigantic tendency on legal discuss to have infinitely long discussions with no conclusion, but I would like to know if there are actual problems with using this actual resource bundle right now in projects I would like to release this week.

Could we restrict all discussion of possible future enhancements to the maven-dev list?

many thanks
david jencks


Hen

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