I think anyone developing plugins for languages other than Java is going to
run into similar problems. We should discuss and hash out the general
issues. A fair amount of what NMaven does is not .NET specific, so we can
come up with generalized interfaces, common components and patterns. Also
you should check out the toolchain support in the upcoming 2.0.9 release :
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Toolchains

Shane
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Christian Edward Gruber <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yeah - I may do that too with the flex thing because a .swf is the
> normal web-deployable, but a particular dynamic linking approach
> (called Remote Shared Libraries) uses .swf files as libraries.  I may
> force it by using a swf-rsl packaging type, but I haven't completely
> figured that out.
>
> Christian.
>
> On 14-Mar-08, at 16:14 , Shane Isbell wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure the specifics of VELOs problem but I have run into some
> > issues
> > with NMaven for .NET support. There may be cases (like netmodules, or
> > linking of assemblies) where you don't want transitive dependencies,
> > they
> > need to be direct. So it is up to the plugins to decide if
> > artifactType[x]:compile is transtive or not. It is the same scope
> > but the
> > behavior is different depending on artifact type.
> >
> > There are also issues such as the Global Assembly Cache. In this
> > case, I use
> > a provided scope but when the plugins see an artifact dependency with
> > dotnet:gac_msil type, they know to treat it differently.
> >
> > So the key is not to change scopes but to change the artifact type
> > of the
> > dependency to handle different behavior of the scope.
> >
> > Shane
> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Christian Edward Gruber <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Why would you actually need other scopes?  Don't think of scope,
> >> think
> >> of use-cases:
> >>
> >> 1.  Need for both compile and in the deployed system
> >> 2.  Need only for compile.
> >> 3.  Need only in the deployed system
> >> 4.  Provided locally for compile
> >> 5.  Need only during testing
> >>
> >> What other scenarios would your other language have need for?  These
> >> are the scenarios that are handled by the maven dependency scopes.
> >>
> >> Christian.
> >>
> >> On 14-Mar-08, at 10:45 , Brian E. Fox wrote:
> >>
> >>> Nope, the scopes are coded into the core and most of the plugins
> >>> since
> >>> it's a core concept.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: VELO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:42 AM
> >>> To: Maven Developers List
> >>> Subject: Re: Custom scopes
> >>>
> >>> And there is any where to say: "Hey maven, I wanna change your
> >>> scopes,
> >>> I wanna this scopes"?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> VELO
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Christian Edward Gruber
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> "System" scope doesn't exist in Java either.  It's not a Java
> >>>> thing,
> >>>> but a Maven thing, and it just means that the dependency is
> >>>> provided
> >>>> at compile time by a local direct path, and that the ultimate
> >>>> runtime
> >>>> will provide the dependency.
> >>>>
> >>>> Christian.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 14-Mar-08, at 07:25 , VELO wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm developing a maven compiler mojo to another language (not
> >>>>> Java,
> >>>>> but I prefer don't reveal, at least not now).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That language have more scopes (total 6).  One (COMPILE) is Java
> >>> like.
> >>>>> But the others have different naming:
> >>>>> RUNTIME on Java there is called EXTERNAL
> >>>>> PROVIDED on Java looks like to RUNTIME on this language
> >>>>> SYSTEM  doesn't exist
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I wanna the same Java Scopes, but I wanna to use another name
> >>>>> convention.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How can I create my custom scope and insert they into the maven
> >>>>> dependency mechanism? I need to do that because I have 2 types of
> >>>>> transitive dependencies and 3 non transitive.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any one can help me?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> VELO
> >>>>>
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