On 09/05/2008, at 6:03 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:


Ah, hold on there. 1) Since when did accepting new bodies of code be decided between two people.

It shouldn't be, and IMO this discussion should continue and get some more opinions (as I said "if there is support here"). After that, the sandbox is the best starting point and if anything goes in that is more than James' own work, then the IP clearance papers should of course be filled in too.

But one standard for everyone, please. You checked in a more significant contribution without discussion *at all* just a few days ago (http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=653572).

I'm a committer and Ivan did not get access to our repository, and it was no different then the GIT provider.

The difference was that the GIT provider was discussed and contributed via JIRA, like all other contributions. The other provider appeared, on trunk, completely unannounced. It's clearly a double standard to then turn around and say things like "Since when did accepting new bodies of code be decided between two people."

But to be absolutely clear, I think the Accurev contribution is great in the log run, and I'm glad to see Ivan on the lists supporting it. I certainly have no complaint with them. Let's move on.

Whereas the difference is access to our repository for what is honestly a duplication of much code that exists, and far less then something like an SCM provider. There is a stark difference because I don't freely hand out access. There are alternatives for plugins, especially given our model is fully distributed, and we already have a ton of orphaned plugins.

What I checked in was written by the only people in the world with clear authority to write that SCM provider. Whereas these plugins largely duplicate what exists. So I think there is a stark difference.

Firstly, no access has been handed out that wasn't already present. If you now have a problem with the sandbox openness we instituted as a group, please raise that separately.

I wasn't debating the relative merits of the two contributions. As far as I'm concerned, the discussion is ongoing - as I said, the wagon plugin as is needs some work to be suitable for Wagon, if at all. I don't want to maintain something that is only duplication either. The license plugin in particular needs to take a look at ways to interact with the existing techs rather than being a new thing (there is also IANAL at Mojo that I just saw), but I think better license handling is worth pursuing if James has ideas.

Let's just continue that discussion, as two separate threads for each thing.

Thanks,
Brett

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