I have thought about backing up the repo as well but haven't acted on it for 
one main reason: the entire content of the apache repository is replicated to 
central and then around the world to countless sites. There isn't much to lose 
here that makes me overly concerned about replicating the repo yet again. This 
is not true of the snapshot repo but losing that is just an inconvenience.

That's not to say we can't rsync the storage contents to yet another disk 
inside of apache if we decide it's needed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse McConnell [mailto:jesse.mcconn...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:29 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: [vote] use repository.zones.apache.org as the new 
staging/releasing location for Maven artifacts

well might be a bit belated but I am +1 for this as well, bringing a
bit of order to the staging process is a good thing..

my only concern which I have written a number of responses to only to
just delete and not send is something that has been brought up a
number of times on the infra list...

nexus brings a nice level of security to the repo practices that has
been missing but I am still a bit concerned on the artifacts on disk
from a recovery standpoint...I would feel more comfortable with it if
the artifact storage was backed by an scm...maybe not in this
particular instance for staging and promotion, but for the actual
repo...would be comforting to me.  especially if we are starting to
move towards having tooling like nexus or archiva sitting over and
managing artifacts on a disk.  Things like that symbolic link clean
issue that was just reported happen and having it backed by a backed
up scm would be comforting...

my 2 cents,
jesse

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jesse mcconnell
jesse.mcconn...@gmail.com



On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Jason van Zyl <jvan...@sonatype.com> wrote:
>
> On 6-Feb-09, at 12:23 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:34 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>
>>> On 5-Feb-09, at 9:53 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure why this needs a vote. Just do it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This requires pulling all of the org.apache.maven.* artifacts into Nexus
>>> and that's where they stay for this project because we can't keep partial
>>> bits here and over on people. We are suggesting that projects at Apache
>>> decide on a per-project basis. So there are currently only two solutions:
>>> use people or use Nexus. That's why Brian asked people.
>>>>
>>
>> I'm confused by your use of "people" in the last two sentences. The last
>> "people" could either mean infra or the folks on this list - it obviously
>> isn't p.a.o.   I saw all the traffic on Infra where Brian asked about this
>> and was told how. No one objected that I saw when this was mentioned on this
>> list several days ago. I realize you may not want to seem like you are
>> forcing this on anyone, but it seemed to me this was a done deal when infra
>> told Brian to set it up in a zone.
>>
>> But if you want a +1 instead, consider this it.
>>
>
> It would be possible to support the staging without moving everything for
> Maven over into one location, but I would prefer to stick to concrete and
> currently the best (and only solution) for staging and promotion that isn't
> painful is Nexus. So we did the staging and thought about how much work it
> would be to support that and it's far simpler to just move everything for
> projects that want to use Nexus. I don't want to do a huge amount of work
> based on the theoretical possibility there will be another option anytime in
> the near future.
>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
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