On 26/02/2009, at 6:17 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:


On 24-Feb-09, at 5:53 PM, Brett Porter wrote:


On 25/02/2009, at 6:57 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:


We actually don't know until the round of refactoring that's going to happen starting next week. Myself, Benjamin, John, Oleg, and Shane will be doing the lion's share of the refactoring in the project builder, plugin manager, lifecycle executor and the repository system so we don't know what exactly will work as expected and how that will effect changes in plexus.

Are you going to post some details beforehand? I'm kind of interested in fixing the reporting mess.


Kohsuke is going to be at the meetup and I plan to address the idea or reporting in Hudson and in Maven. There is a proliferation of duplicated reporting plugins and the crux of the issue is data generation versus document generation. Maven itself needs to move toward the production of data. Then anything can pick up the data and generate reports, or create trending information. But this whole system needs to be decoupled from Maven's core so really anything can be worked on independently which is what I'm trying to do with Vincent and the separation of the rendering engine in XWiki. I plan to give a presentation at the meetup on the XWiki rendering engine.

Yes, I'm fully in support of this. I did this back to front originally, trying to replicate M1 functionality and add data point handling to the reporting-api later, but it never quite fit without being there from the outset. Unfortunately now the rendering part that really isn't core is wound in too tightly because there was no way to do that from within the site plugin where it really belongs. I'm actually way more interested in getting involved in data point tracking than rendering now TBH :)

Anyway, I just want to make sure all this stuff cycles through the list since that's really key to your objective of getting more people involved. I know my face time/phone time/IRC time is becoming more limited by the day :)

Thanks,
Brett

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