I hesitated on first expressing this opinion, but now that there's
been some push back, I'll share my initial reaction. I like the plan
Stephen set forth, but it may be more appropriate for a 3.0 release of
surefire. Although the majority (if not all) of the plugin's behavior
is unaffected, the refactoring seems like a new architecture for the
plugin.

Paul

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Dennis Lundberg <denn...@apache.org> wrote:
> Just so I understand, when you say the ITs "won't work for release", do
> you mean
>
> 1. They will fail the release process
>
> or
>
> 2. The current IT coverage is bad
>
> Stephen Connolly wrote:
>> sorry that may have come off a tad rude.
>>
>> technically I could rewrite the tests without adding the failsafe stuff,
>> but that would look hacky and maven should show best practice not hacky
>>
>> if you want to release 2.5 before Friday, fine... otherwise I'll do it
>> my way
>>
>> Sent from my [rhymes with tryPod] ;-)
>>
>> On 4 Jan 2010, at 22:21, Stephen Connolly
>> <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> no can do. I need to fix the integration tests... they won't work for
>>> release as written... to rewrite them I need failsafe
>>>
>>> Sent from my [rhymes with tryPod] ;-)
>>>
>>> On 4 Jan 2010, at 22:13, Dennis Lundberg <denn...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not familiar enough to with the code bases to judge your proposal.
>>>>
>>>> What I'd like though is a new step, before the ones you listed, and that
>>>> is to release Surefire 2.5 with whatever is in trunk *first*.
>>>>
>>>> Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>> OK,
>>>>>
>>>>> maven-surefire-plugin is well known to everyone
>>>>>
>>>>> it's lesser-known sister is failsafe-maven-plugin
>>>>>
>>>>> failsafe was written (by me) to solve some of the issues of running
>>>>> integration tests with the maven lifecycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> the lifecycle has a number of phases
>>>>>
>>>>> * some crappy phases
>>>>> * test
>>>>> * some more crappy phases
>>>>> * pre-integration-test
>>>>> * integration-test
>>>>> * post-integration-test
>>>>> * verify
>>>>> * yet more crappy phases
>>>>>
>>>>> surefire binds to the test phase, and by default will fail your build
>>>>> at the test phase if any of the tests it runs fail.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is all well and good when running unit tests...
>>>>>
>>>>> when we want to run integration tests, we usually want to set up some
>>>>> environment which we are integrating with, e.g. start a jetty server
>>>>> and deploy the current application to that server, or start a database
>>>>> server (e.g. derby) and configure the data source, etc
>>>>>
>>>>> so we use the pre-integration-test phase to do this set-up, and we
>>>>> tidy-up in the post-integration-test phase...
>>>>>
>>>>> when our pre-integration-test stuff is all running in the maven JVM,
>>>>> everything is hunky-dory
>>>>> (http://www.taytohunkydorys.ie/brands/hunky_dorys.asp). we bind a
>>>>> second execution of surefire:test to the integration-test phase and
>>>>> when/if the tests fail, the JVM gets killed and our integration test
>>>>> environment gets destroyed...
>>>>>
>>>>> however, if our pre-integration-test stuff affects external processes,
>>>>> we are stuck because we have no way to tidy-up in the
>>>>> post-integration-test phase (BTW, IMHO nobody should ever run "mvn
>>>>> integration-test". 1. it's too long to type, and 2, you reallly want
>>>>> to run "mvn verify" as that will give the post-integration-test phase
>>>>> a chance to run)
>>>>>
>>>>> failsafe solves the issue by decoupling failing the build from running
>>>>> the tests, failsafe:integration-test never fails the build, that is
>>>>> left up to failsafe:verify, and thus (as long as you never invoke a
>>>>> phase in the range [pre-integration-test,post-integration-test]) your
>>>>> tidy-up plugin configuration will always run.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, as part of rolling the 2.5 release of surefire, I was looking into
>>>>> merging the two plugins...
>>>>>
>>>>> My initial idea was to just move the mojo's into m-surefire-p as is,
>>>>> thus m-s-p would have three mojos: test, integration-test and verify
>>>>>
>>>>> However, there are advantages to keeping them as separate plugins:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Use case 1: Ignore Unit Test Failures and run the integration tests
>>>>> (I know Bob has broken the unit tests for that new feature he is
>>>>> writing, but I want to check I have not created a regression in the
>>>>> stuff I'm working on) - the verify mojo parses the xml result files to
>>>>> see if any tests failed.  If we use the same plugin, we should really
>>>>> use the same directory (e.g. surefire-reports) It does not make sense
>>>>> for surefire to have one goal report to surefire-reports and the other
>>>>> report to failsafe-reports... and it we change the directory for the
>>>>> unit tests to e.g. test-reports that could have a regression imact.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Use case 2: Separate Reporting (as separate plugins, they generate
>>>>> reports in separate directories as before)
>>>>>
>>>>> * Use case 3: Separate default binding... consider the case where
>>>>> pluginManagement specifies executions, with separate plugins I can
>>>>> safely define /project/build/plugins/plugin/m-surefire-p and not drag
>>>>> in the default execution of failsafe:integration-test and
>>>>> failsafe-verify
>>>>>
>>>>> So my proposal is as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Move failsafe-maven-plugin to
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/surefire/trunk/maven-failsafe-plugin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Refactor maven-surefire-plugin taking the code that is common with
>>>>> failsafe into common module
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Refactor maven-failsafe-plugin to use the common module.
>>>>>
>>>>> In pseudo code SurefirePlugin would be reduced to
>>>>>
>>>>> execute() {
>>>>> common.runTests();
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> Failsafe's integration-test mojo would become
>>>>>
>>>>> execute() {
>>>>> try {
>>>>>   common.runTests();
>>>>> } catch (Throwable t) {
>>>>>   // ignore
>>>>> }
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Refactor maven-surefire-reporting-plugin to move the xml results
>>>>> parser into the common module
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Refactor Failsafe's verify mojo to use the xml results parse from
>>>>> the common module.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, so that's a tad long, but what do people think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any objections?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Stephen
>>>>>
>>>>> Lazy consensus, 72hrs, i.e. you have until 18:00GMT on 7th Jan 2010 to
>>>>> -1 this (after which you'll have to -1 the commit if you feel strongly
>>>>> against the direction I'm suggesting)
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