Our main topic of discussion on irc was initially if this *should* be a
3.0.X or 3.1 issue due to being somewhat of a borderline between
improvement/new feature. It seems to me like the way this discussion is
heading, it should probably be tagged 3.1.

I agree very much about getting some well defined use cases and 
John's comments on the issue are also very good. 

I will leave the issue at "3.1" for now, and request well defined
use-cases on the issue.

Kristian (I have all the skip options I need already)


ti., 01.02.2011 kl. 15.44 -0500, skrev Jason van Zyl:
> So the technical work was done implementing this but no where in the issue 
> does it describe why this feature is useful.
> 
> This fundamentally changes the behaviour of the lifecycle and the example 
> listed in the issue is skipping tests. Some explanation of why this is good 
> would be nice, there's nothing about the reasoning of the feature in the 
> issue. Possibly something like:
> 
> - As a user I would like to skip the test phase locally, and only from the 
> command line so it's easier while I experiment putting new test features in 
> place. But I would like to guarantee that these can only be done from the 
> command line and never in the presence of the release plugin so that skipping 
> phases is not done inadvertently during a release.
> 
> The second case in a issue doesn't strike me as useful without an 
> explanation, to run to the install phase but not package the JAR?
> 
> I think a fundamental alteration of behaviour requires an explanation of 
> reasoning. I believe that is reasonable. It initially strikes me as a 
> potentially bad idea. Maybe you talked about the reasoning in IRC, which I 
> think is perfectly fine, just toss the discussion or salient points of the 
> reasoning into the issue.
> 
> On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
> 
> > I have looked at the patch diffs and it looks really great, one of the
> > better patches I've seen in the issue trackers !
> > 
> > We had a quick chat about this patch on irc and we figured we could take
> > this patch for 3.0.x.
> > 
> > One thing we would like though, is to be able to specify multiple
> > exclusions, not just one plugin/execution. Any chance you could fix 
> > that ?
> > 
> > As for the documentation, that would be something
> > like https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/trunk
> > 
> > and the document
> > 
> > src/site/apt/guides/mini/guide-configuring-maven.apt
> > 
> > Sorry for not replying immediately; been busy preparing
> > my trip to the alps tomorrow ;)
> > 
> > Kristian
> > 
> > 
> > ti., 01.02.2011 kl. 09.16 +0530, skrev Kalyan Akella:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> Any updates on the patch. Did it apply cleanly ? Any comments, changes ??
> >> 
> >> Sincere Regards,
> >> Kalyan C. Akella
> >> 
> >> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Kalyan Akella 
> >> <kalyan.ake...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you for the comments. I updated the issue,
> >>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-3321 with the modified patches.
> >>> Regarding your point about documentation, will you please point me to the
> >>> exact location where I should include the usage instructions for this
> >>> feature and other info (perhaps a wiki ?).
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Sincere Regards,
> >>> Kalyan C. Akella
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Kristian Rosenvold <
> >>> kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Thanks for the patch, which looks good. I added some comments to the
> >>>> issue, http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-3321
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Kristian
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
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> Thanks,
> 
> Jason
> 
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> First, the taking in of scattered particulars under one Idea,
> so that everyone understands what is being talked about ... Second,
> the separation of the Idea into parts, by dividing it at the joints,
> as nature directs, not breaking any limb in half as a bad carver might.
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