On 6/13/11 8:45 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote:
On 13 June 2011 12:48, Benson Margulies<[email protected]>  wrote:
Let's be specific about a few classes.

CollectionUtil has an @author of olamy and an apache notice, so I
grabbed it rather than try to recreate it.

did you check the svn log?


FastMap and CachedMap are grabbed from javolution. We can call the
current javolution from the bridge.

That seems fine by me


StringInputStream and StringOutputStream are deprecated, have an
Apache 1.1 license, have no obvious author, and known-busted. They are
also so trivial that I claim that copying their source for interim
compatibility is harmless, given the license notice.


OK, if we have tests.

StringUtils is a large collection of fiddly functions. Again, an
Apache license, and a claim of provenance from Apache Turbine. Do we
really need to recreate it due to license considerations?

Can we copy the turbine code instead?

I've been trying for some time now to wean myself off of plexus-utils' StringUtils class using commons-lang, and it works pretty well. I think it'd be pretty easy to provide some sort of remapping/redirection implementation of plexus-utils StringUtils -> commons-lang StringUtils.

Just FWIW.



ReaderFactory: has an Apache notice, a Maven committer's name on it.
If nothing else, Herve could commit a copy of it to the sandbox and
we'd be good to go.

Lets see if Hervé will cooperate ;-)


SweeperPool: does anything use this? It would be somewhat scary to recreate.






On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Stephen Connolly
<[email protected]>  wrote:
It's tempting... but I fear all that will happen is nobody will switch
to the new impl...

the WHOLE point of this bridge is to remove any dependency on
plexus-utils in core... and how we class-load plexus-utils is IIRC
that we force the core version on all plugins no matter what they
use... so if we remove a deprecated method and a plugin is expecting
it then that plugin breaks.

On 13 June 2011 10:41, Mark Struberg<[email protected]>  wrote:
Hi!

If those methods are already deprecated, then I'd say we should drop them now.

Most times those methods didn't got deprecated because they are 'unpretty' but 
because they are seriously flawed. Like missing encoding parameter, missing 
timezone, not multithreading capable, etc.

So if those methods are deprecated for more than a year now (or<  maven-2.2.1 
and maven-3.0), then I'd say lets drop them now.

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Mon, 6/13/11, Stephen Connolly<[email protected]>  wrote:

From: Stephen Connolly<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Truly awful code in plexus...
To: "Maven Developers List"<[email protected]>
Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 5:55 AM
if we knew the provenance of the
plexus code, yes... but we don't

- Stephen

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On 13 Jun 2011 00:12, "Benson Margulies"<[email protected]>
wrote:
If we want to keep the broken behavior of these
already @Deprecated
classes, then I'd think we'd just copy them wholesale
from plexus to
the bridge. There's no advantage in replacing an old
broken version
with a new broken, and they're already deprecated, and
the right thing
to do to callers is to make them use modern methods.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Stephen Connolly
<[email protected]>
wrote:
thanks

- Stephen

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On 12 Jun 2011 23:25, "Hervé BOUTEMY"<[email protected]>
wrote:
strategy added in the proposal [1], for future
reference

Regards,

Hervé

[1]

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Plexus-utils+replacement

Le lundi 13 juin 2011, Stephen Connolly a
écrit :
here is my thoughts, for first release we
need to have a drop in
replacement that works exactly the same as
the original... that gives
us
a
way to kill the old version (otherwise
people will just say, "I'm not
going to fix my code when it works fine
with plexus utils... ok maybe
I'll
fix it later")

we will mark every method and class in the
bridge as deprecated, but we
need the recommendations for each
replacement to put in the deprecated
tags.

for the second release we flip the
@reproducesplexusbug rule and fix
all
those test cases

for the third release, everything is
deprecated

- Stephen

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On 12 Jun 2011 21:24, "Benson Margulies"
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