kristian, I want to repeat that b.b. has been perfectly hospitable
about my little patch and proposal for a bigger one. your message,
with which I have no disagreement, might give a casual reader another
impression.

On Jul 17, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Kristian Rosenvold
<[email protected]> wrote:

> sø., 17.07.2011 kl. 09.26 -0400, skrev Benson Margulies:
>> After re-reading the ASF legal licensing policy,  I'm starting this
>> thread to formally propose that the Maven incorporate versions of
>> Aether that are EPL without an AL dual-license. As per convention,
>> someone can make a VOTE thread once voices have been heard here.
>>
>> EPL is 'Category B'. Binary redistribution with a notice is acceptable.
>>
>> Maven incorporated many plexus components, and at least some of them
>> have IP question marks hanging over them (c.f. the discussion of the
>> plexus-utils replacement). I, therefore, don't see any real impact on
>> the users of Maven in adopting EPL copies of Aether. To the extent
>> that Maven is a development tool, the user impact of category B
>> components is lighter than with something that is routinely
>> incorporated in larger systems. To the extent, on the other hand, that
>> Maven is embeddable, this could be a problem for someone. However,
>> that argument would make a lot more sense if every other scrap of the
>> ecosystem were fully-vetted category A.
>>
>> Someone might wonder, 'Why has Benson decided to tilt at this
>> particular windmill?'
>>
>> Well, some itches of mine have led into Aether, and I'd feel fairly
>> silly investing a lot of time and energy in Aether patches that will
>> never see the light of day in Maven. So, I'm inclined to push the
>> community to choose a course of action. I see three possibilities:
>>
>> 1) Just make the notice arrangements to use Aether under EPL.
>> 2) Actively see if Sonatype will put the dual license back.
>> 3) Fork the last dual version.
>
> Hervé and I are aether committers, and if I wasn't so /extremely busy/
> here on Mallorca I'd look at your patch. Opposed to Mark and Ralph, I
> have no qualms accepting an EPL 3rd party dependency, If you start
> showing an interest in aether matters I'm sure you'll get that commit
> bit pretty quickly yourself.
>
> I really just want to get over this license-of-the week crap
> we've been seeing for aether and sisu, which I think is totally
> unacceptable. Assuming aether actually goes to stay at eclipse I'm happy
> with that, until so happens I still want to keep the asl version (and
> fork if necessary).
>
> Technically, not that much has happened since the last ASL versioned
> aether, so there's no real gap to talk about. I /wish/ there was some
> kind of change in the pipeline that I could say made the aether/maven
> split problematic. But there isn't, is there ? I am much more worried
> about change in maven at a higher level than interfaces. I somehow sense
> that pom version 5 is never going to happen; but that's not aether's
> fault..?
>
>
> Kristian
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