On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:

> 
> At the end of the day, if you really cared about the Maven users, you'd help 
> us get an official Apache version of 3.0.4 out.   The fact that you are 
> unwilling to do what is necessary to make that happen is very frustrating to 
> me.  
> 

How about you take the fixes we did push into SVN and do a 3.0.4 and then I can 
make another build with the rest of the fixes. 

> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>>> If you want to point a couple of your users at them to help test things
>>> or similar, fine as a lead up to 3.0.4.  But they cannot be considered
>>> "general available" things similar to releases.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>>> Maven PMC,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Benjamin and I would like to make a distribution available that
>>>>> addresses several issues with the Apache Maven 3.0.3 release. We
>>>>> have
>>>>> pushed back all bugfixes that do not involve Eclipse Aether[a] and
>>>>> Eclipse Sisu[b] as their incorporation into the mainline and an
>>>>> official release is your decision.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We haven't pushed any individual artifacts to Maven Central as part
>>>>> of
>>>>> creating the distribution, we have only created the distribution
>>>>> itself. If there is anything you want changed let us know and we'll
>>>>> change it, but we wanted to make these fixes available in a build
>>>>> for
>>>>> users who are having problems. We're not trying to represent it as
>>>>> anything other then a distribution that incorporates fixes users
>>>>> need.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The build is available here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>> Summary of the issues
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fixes pushed back to the ASF:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [MNG-5064][1] mvn -nsu (--no-snapshot-updates) should not download
>>>>> snapshots (and break local builds) [MNG-5131][2] Wrong encoding for
>>>>> encrypted passwords
>>>>> [MNG-5113][3] NullPointerException on javadoc site generation
>>>>> [MNG-5137][4] Reactor resolution does not work for forked multi
>>>>> module
>>>>> builds [MNG-5096][5] <exclusion> on <dependency> with
>>>>> <type>test-jar</type> doesn't work in maven 3 [MNG-5135][6]
>>>>> Regression:
>>>>> in some cases aggregator mojo is unable to resolve dependencies with
>>>>> custom packaging
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fixes not pushed back to the ASF as these are dependent on fixes in
>>>>> Eclipse Aether and Eclipse Sisu:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [MNG-5042][7] Regression: CloningClassLoader causes
>>>>> StackOverflowError
>>>>> in groovy [MNG-5056][8] Test dependencies get packaged into WAR
>>>>> file.
>>>>> [MNG-5084][9] Resolver for plugins failing
>>>>> [MNG-5087][10] Maven 3 dependency resolution fails until
>>>>> maven-metadata-local.xml files (created by maven-invoker-plugin) are
>>>>> deleted [MNG-5125] [11]Regression: mvn 3.0.3 is extreemly slow with
>>>>> a
>>>>> large number of dependencies [MNG-5138][12] Dependency conflicts are
>>>>> extremely opaque
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5064
>>>>> [2]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5131
>>>>> [3]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5113
>>>>> [4]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5137
>>>>> [5]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5096
>>>>> [6]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5135
>>>>> 
>>>>> [7]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5042
>>>>> [8]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5056
>>>>> [9]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5084
>>>>> [10]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5087
>>>>> [11]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5125
>>>>> [12]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5138
>>>>> 
>>>>> [a]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
>>>>> [b]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jason
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>> Eclipse Board Member
>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I find ten thousand ways something won't work, I haven't failed.
>>>>> I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is just
>>>>> one more step forward.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Thomas Edison
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
>>>> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
>>>> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
>>>> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
>>>> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
>>>> signs of decline and decay.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can fix
>> bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
>> 
>> -- Paul Graham
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Thanks,

Jason

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Founder,  Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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