On May 9, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Mark Derricutt wrote:

> On 10/05/12 7:47 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> The only thing I would like to sync up on is a couple changes I want to make 
>> to the plugin manager to make sure the current plugin packaging, the plugin 
>> packaging you're making and the plugin packaging I'm working on in Tesla all 
>> work together without conflicting. Anyone should theoretically be able to 
>> make a toolchain and allow users to take
> Is there any intent to merge any of the etesla stuff back into Apache Maven 
> core at all?   ( I'd really love to see Atom POM in some 'official blessed' 
> manner ).

I plan to do the odd patch and help with extensibility for what I would like to 
do in Tesla, but as far as merging the work no plans. Apache nearly expunged 
all my passion for innovating and doing open source in general. I've been happy 
again lately hacking with folks like Dhanji and I personally don't plan to 
contribute anything significant to Apache ever again. I speak here purely for 
myself. The overhead for innovating at Apache is just too high for me. Maven 
has stagnated and I believe that's fairly visible to most users and I can't 
really do anything about that from Apache. But I can from Tesla, and I've 
enjoyed how Tesla has gone and I plan to continue working this way. I'm having 
fun again and I can contribute to the ecosystem when I enjoy what I'm doing.

As far as Tesla goes and how it relates to builds it is a set of add-ons to 
Maven. I have a couple small patches for the core to contribute back, but if 
you want to take advantage of build stuff in Tesla it's just adding some JARs 
to the distribution. But Tesla is not only about builds. I am building 
integration across the build, IDE, repository manager, CI, provisioning and 
software delivery in general. My work now I would categorize as being 
interested in the continuity across all the tools and the build is a small part 
of that. I can move faster working by myself and selectively working with folks 
like Dhanji,  Dain and Jeanfrancois.

The core of Maven has been modified to the point where it is fully extensible 
purely by the addition of JARs. Further to that Igor has created a mechanism 
that allows extension by configuration so that upon startup Maven can alter its 
functionality by downloading new extensions on the fly. This Sonatype is likely 
to contribute back and once that is done anyone should be able to extend Maven 
easily whether it be for individual use or for thousands of developers within a 
corporation.

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Thanks,

Jason

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Jason van Zyl
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