Is there actually a MAC in the test grid as I see it's grayed out and hasn't 
run in over a year? Any particular reason?

On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:

> 2012/10/11 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>:
>> I can look at both of those, maybe we can figure something out in the simple 
>> implementation to make it look better. Ant thing looks easy enough to fix.
> nice.
> BTW some its are failing too:
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/core-integration-testing-maven-3/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/
> 
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 5:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 2012/10/11 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>:
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Why too much rush ?
>>>> 
>>>> I just find it more convenient to have everything in Git. Makes the 
>>>> testing cycle more pleasant and the git svn workflow isn't something I 
>>>> personally enjoy. I'm working on the core and it's nothing more than a 
>>>> preference.
>>>> 
>>>>> Perso, I will be happy to see similar rush on writing test/doc the
>>>>> stuff committed 1,5 month ago !.(despite a number of ping)
>>>>> AFAIK (maybe I miss something) using @Inject is not so trivial because
>>>>> we need to generate the sisu index.
>>>>> Which is very similar to what we do currently with plexus plugins
>>>>> which generate metadata.
>>>>> So what is the added value for users or plugin developers (except
>>>>> using the last "à la mode" @Inject).
>>>>> I will be happy to hear the added values (performance ? etc .. ?)
>>>> 
>>>> I'll answer these in another post. With the documentation, that will be 
>>>> easier.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> regarding last commit regarding logs in trunk, I tested that and the
>>>>> artifact transfer progress(download/upload) is now (IMHO) very crappy
>>>>> !!
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure technically what "very crappy" means. You mean the way it 
>>>> visually looks?
>>> Yup visible changes for users will be a tons of lines in the console.
>>> Maybe it's just matter of log layout to configure (As I didn't have a
>>> look I don't know)
>>> 
>>> Something else when building core with ant bootstrap (sure not really
>>> important :-)):
>>> 
>>> process-classes:
>>>    [echo] Using plexus version 1.5.5
>>>    [java] SLF4J: Failed to load class "org.slf4j.impl.StaticLoggerBinder".
>>>    [java] SLF4J: Defaulting to no-operation (NOP) logger implementation
>>>    [java] SLF4J: See
>>> http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#StaticLoggerBinder for further
>>> details.
>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry I didn't investigate more on the reason.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2012/10/11 Kristian Rosenvold <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> Jason ran the tests based off the git repo and they were fine. There
>>>>>> is no problem (I've had my fair share of troubles with the core it's
>>>>>> so it's probably been a problem between chair and keyboard).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unless someone objects I'll file a INFRA jira to port m3-core + IT's
>>>>>> sometime later today.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2012/10/11 Anders Hammar <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> So, what is the solution to fixing the ITs that depend on an empty
>>>>>>> folder? Put some dummy file there? But then the folder will not be
>>>>>>> empty...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> So you're going to be working on the core without touching the it's?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Seriously, this discussion is going nowhere. We move both and someone
>>>>>>>> speeds 45 minutes fixing the it's.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Den 11. okt. 2012 kl. 00:54 skrev Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think we can flip the core, we can still release the core without 
>>>>>>>>> flipping the integration tests.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It might actually be better to not move both of those at the same 
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Kristian Rosenvold 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It's just two simple projects that have some very simple fixes that
>>>>>>>>>> need to be done (git does not preserve empty directories and I seem 
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> recall that a couple of it's failed due to this).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I say we do the 3.1 release off git ;) Move both.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2012/10/10 Anders Hammar <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>> I see no reason they need to be migrate at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> So in chatting with Kristian it appears the the core is ready to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> flip, while the integration tests need some work. Can we flip the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> core and work on the core integrations test afterward?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
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>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jason
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>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
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>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
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