Fair enough. On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I will let Barrie decide on whether we *have to* cancel this vote because > of the issues he identified in the NOTICE file. > > Until I hear back from legal-discuss, I do not know whether the test data > issue has any changes required, so I do not know whether (on the bits I am > focusing) there is a requirement for us to respin yet, so from my point of > view I am ok with keeping the vote open until I hear back from > legal-discuss on the test data issue... but if Barrie's view is that with > the current NOTICE we cannot release, then no choice but to cancel the vote > now. > > I'd rather have a vote open to pester legal for a more prompt answer (from > a bunch of volunteers on the 4th of July weekend) than have no vote to push > them with. > > > On 4 July 2013 13:54, Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io> wrote: > >> Then just make the changes you see fit and I'll roll it again. It will >> only take a few minutes. If we know what it should be like then we might as >> well just do it, as it's likely to take less time than asking if an >> exception can be made. >> >> I can cancel the vote. Make the changes you think are required for >> compliance and I'll cut it again. >> >> On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:05 AM, Stephen Connolly < >> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I have asked the legal-discuss list for an opinion on test data sets and >>> license headers. From my reading of the current ASF position: >>> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#faq-exceptions we do not >>> currently have an exception for test data sets. >>> >>> Pending the outcome of that discussion I will have to be >>> >>> -1 >>> >>> If the outcome is that we do not need to do anything for test data sets, >>> then I would be happy to switch to +1. >>> >>> If the outcome is that we need to add some additional text to the NOTICE >>> files to cover the test data sets, then we will need to respin as nobody >> on >>> the PMC can vote +1 if we are aware that the release is in violation of >> the >>> ASF policies and we would be neglecting our governance role. >>> >>> If the outcome is that we need to add the license headers to all the test >>> data files, then I think the PMC will have to review what we want to do >> as >>> adding license headers to every file in the test data set runs the risk >> of >>> invalidating the test data and that is an unnecessary risk that would >>> cripple the project and as such I would be looking for the ASF to change >>> such a decision and provide us with a means of using the NOTICE file to >>> cover the test data. >>> >>> I hate being petty, but unfortunately that is part of the governance role >>> that the PMC is tasked with... :-( >>> >>> - Stephen >>> >>> >>> On 1 July 2013 03:56, Barrie Treloar <baerr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 1 July 2013 06:52, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Another problem: the NOTICE file contains the following spurious text: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> ========================================================================= >>>>> == NOTICE file corresponding to the section 4 d of >>>> == >>>>> == the Apache License, Version 2.0, >>>> == >>>>> == in this case for the Apache Maven distribution. >>>> == >>>>> >>>> >> ========================================================================= >>>>> >>>>> This must not be present in NOTICE files, which are required to be as >>>>> short as possible (but no shorter). >>>>> >>>>> ASF NOTICE files must start as per the following example: >>>>> >>>>> ==================== >>>>> Apache Maven >>>>> Copyright 2001-2013 The Apache Software Foundation >>>>> >>>>> This product includes software developed at >>>>> The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). >>>>> ================== >>>>> >>>>> Note also that the phrase should be "developed at" not "developed by" >>>>> - the distinction is important. >>>>> >>>>> Furthermore, the NOTICE file refers to additonal 3rd party software, >>>>> but there don't appear to be any LICENSE files for the software. >>>>> The licenses should either be in LICENSE.txt or linked therefrom. >>>> >>>> From what I can tell we have been failing this since August 2010. >>>> >>>> >> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=blob;f=apache-maven/NOTICE.txt;hb=bfaf11090a212f8445f2ad929af8acce5a984bf0 >>>> >>>> I can't find change history for >>>> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html so I don't know if we >>>> have been failing all the time, or since it was changed. >>>> >>>> And I can see you've raised http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5487 >>>> to track this. >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder, Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in >> moral philosophy; that is, >> the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. >> >> -- John Kenneth Galbraith >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl --------------------------------------------------------- We know what we are, but know not what we may be. -- Shakespeare
