Great posts, Jason! There are so many reasons to dump SVN, but controlled branch sharing and personal work flow are big ones for me, too. I have a dozen or more local branches of my project, too, and like you, I rebase against what I publish until they're ready, then publish them, and rebase the others, etc. It gives you immense power to work freely and experiment and ultimately contribute higher quality material once you finally publish. But I'm clearly preaching to the choir ;-)
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: > On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote: > > > Le jeudi 13 février 2014 08:27:14 Jason van Zyl a écrit : > >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> > wrote: > >>> the only show stopper I know is for svn trunk which contains a lot of > >>> components > >>> > >>> so -1 for plugins, shared, skins, resources > >> > >> Why wouldn't you put something with its own release cycle in its own > >> repository? > > because plugins = 44 entries, shared = 20 entries, skins = 6 entries, > > resources = 5 entries > > sum = 75 entries > > > > each entry would mean 1 git repo + 1Jenkins job (or even more, since > plugins > > have multiple Jenkins jobs: 1 for Maven 2.2.x, 1 for Maven 3.0.x, 1 for > Maven > > 3.1.x) > > IMHO, we're not ready for such granularity, neither at git nor Jenkins > level > > I'm used to more granularity in Git, if something has a separate lifecycle > it doesn't bother me to have a different repo for it. In the case where > there are a bunch of things that have different artifactIds but really only > get released together then group those together. I can't speak to what > Jenkins can handle. > > > > > > >>> but no problem for me for other release roots containing only one > >>> component > >>> [1] > >>> > >>> notice I don't see much gain: did we get much patches for components > >>> already in git? did nobody send a patch through github for a svn > >>> component replicated to github? Is everybody fluent with git (I still > ses > >>> much "merge" commits in git) > >>> So what's the rationale, really? (apart from bashing one scm over the > >>> other, in one or another direction) > >> > >> The biggest win for me is working on branches. Working with branches in > SVN > >> is horrible, only worse in p4 which is saying a lot. > > what is "p4"? > > Perforce. > > > which component from the 75 previous entries have branches? should > require > > branches? > > > > For Maven core I have 10 branches locally, I share some of them with > others and this is very easy with Git. This is the issue with SVN, it's so > cumbersome to make branches and use them no one does. > > >> The ability to easily > >> create branches, squash commits, incrementally improve them without > fear. I > >> constantly rebase against master and it's really easy with all the great > >> tools like GitX, GitTower, or SourceTree to easily see changes. The > Eclipse > >> support for Git is a million times better, and doing anything Git > related > >> with JGit in Java is always a pleasure (because the #2 CGit guy, wrote > >> JGit) > > do you mean you intend to contribute to other components than core? > > > > I think it would make it easier for anyone to contribute if they wanted to. > > >> > >> As far as potential contribution if you look at Apache projects at > Github > >> there are varying numbers of forks and pull requests but for some of > them > >> it's pretty significant. > >> > >> But for me it's a primarily a personal workflow issue. > >> > >>> So I'm -0 on such a change for parts where I feel it would be feasible > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Hervé > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> > https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/dist-tool-plugin/site/d > >>> ist-tool-check-source-release.html> > >>> Le mercredi 12 février 2014 22:37:36 Jason van Zyl a écrit : > >>>> Can we start the process of converting everything to Git. I don't > really > >>>> see any benefit in using Subversion any longer. > >>>> > >>>> If so then we should just get together for a day and convert them and > >>>> then > >>>> get infra to use what we converted to do the flip. > >>>> > >>>> Jason (who would be happy to never execute svn again) > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Jason > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> Jason van Zyl > >> Founder, Apache Maven > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track > >> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget > >> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful > >> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a > >> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as > >> signs of decline and decay. > >> > >> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > Thanks, > > Jason > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Jason van Zyl > Founder, Apache Maven > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > http://twitter.com/takari_io > --------------------------------------------------------- > > happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will > elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come > and sit softly on your shoulder ... > > -- Thoreau > > > > > > > > > >
