Jason, I can't help suspecting that the first step in housecleaning
here will be a new-tech SCM release, do you think so?

On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems to me we might as well make one last release with what's there
> now, just in case it helps someone. Then clean the closet.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
>> I'l try it before you release it. But I suggest you modernize it and by that 
>> I mean forget Maven 2.x and update it to the sisu-plexus, remove all the old 
>> crap. If you want to use the new stuff then move to a relatively modern 
>> version of Maven. If users need new capabilities then they move forward with 
>> Maven as well. We're EOL'ing Maven 2.x so I would just move forward.
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am willing to do the work of RM'ing what we have here, since no one
>>> out there will test anything before it's released.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Robert Scholte <rfscho...@apache.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I've only changed maven-scm-manager-plexus to 1.8, and kept the rest on 
>>>>> 1.9,
>>>>> such as the maven-scm-providers-standard.
>>>>> This brings me to the next question: Are you convinced that 1.9 will solve
>>>>> all the problems of the GIT users?
>>>>> I'm not, and I wouldn't prepare a "git special"-release without knowing
>>>>> it'll take away the GIT critical issues.
>>>>> I've tried to get feedback after some fixes, but didn't get the feedback I
>>>>> was searching for.
>>>>
>>>> Not I, I'm just reflecting the claims of others.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> Op Sat, 22 Feb 2014 19:12:05 +0100 schreef Benson Margulies
>>>>> <bimargul...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This, of course, does not help the people pining for the git support in
>>>>>> 1.9.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Robert Scholte <rfscho...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/r1570870 fixes the unittests on my machine.
>>>>>>> I'll have to check was has changed between SCM 1.8 and 1.8.1, but 
>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> serious issue here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op Sat, 22 Feb 2014 18:48:53 +0100 schreef Benson Margulies
>>>>>>> <bimargul...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still 2.2.1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, in version 2.2.1,
>>>>>>>> org.apache.maven.artifact.transform.DefaultArtifactTransformationManager
>>>>>>>> tries to patch a list that is injected, and gets into trouble because
>>>>>>>> Plexus has made the list unmodifiable. Presumably, that
>>>>>>>> unmodifiability was some improvement to plexus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess that taking 1.5.5 of the container doesn't work with 2.2.1,
>>>>>>>> and the question is how far back one needs to go (give or take making
>>>>>>>> a new release of maven-artifact-manager).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or even if any of this is the solution to Robert's original problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Igor Fedorenko <i...@ifedorenko.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What version of Maven does release plugin depend on? I think
>>>>>>>>> DefaultArtifactTransformationManager.initialize was removed in 3.x, at
>>>>>>>>> least it's not present in 3.2.1 and 3.1.1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/22/2014, 12:35, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry, I did mislead you. Not surprisingly, adding maven-compat
>>>>>>>>>> did not fix the problem with the apparently unmodifiable list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Benson Margulies
>>>>>>>>>> <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I may have misled you, but I'll try it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Caused by:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.repository.exception.ComponentLifecycleException:
>>>>>>>>>>> Error constructing component role:
>>>>>>>>>>> 'org.apache.maven.artifact.resolver.ArtifactResolver',
>>>>>>>>>>> implementation:
>>>>>>>>>>> 'org.apache.maven.artifact.resolver.DefaultArtifactResolver', role
>>>>>>>>>>> hint: 'default'
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.builder.XBeanComponentBuilder.createComponentInstance(XBeanComponentBuilder.java:176)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.builder.XBeanComponentBuilder.build(XBeanComponentBuilder.java:123)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.manager.AbstractComponentManager.createComponentInstance(AbstractComponentManager.java:181)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.manager.SingletonComponentManager.getComponent(SingletonComponentManager.java:67)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultComponentRegistry.getComponent(DefaultComponentRegistry.java:358)
>>>>>>>>>>> ... 33 more
>>>>>>>>>>> Caused by: org.apache.xbean.recipe.ConstructionException: Unable to
>>>>>>>>>>> convert property value from
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.builder.XBeanComponentBuilder$RequirementRecipe
>>>>>>>>>>> to org.apache.maven.artifact.transform.ArtifactTransformationManager
>>>>>>>>>>> for injection private
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.maven.artifact.transform.ArtifactTransformationManager
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.maven.artifact.resolver.DefaultArtifactResolver.transformationManager
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xbean.recipe.ObjectRecipe.setProperty(ObjectRecipe.java:472)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xbean.recipe.ObjectRecipe.setProperties(ObjectRecipe.java:367)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xbean.recipe.ObjectRecipe.internalCreate(ObjectRecipe.java:282)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xbean.recipe.AbstractRecipe.create(AbstractRecipe.java:96)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xbean.recipe.AbstractRecipe.create(AbstractRecipe.java:61)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xbean.recipe.AbstractRecipe.create(AbstractRecipe.java:49)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.builder.XBeanComponentBuilder.createComponentInstance(XBeanComponentBuilder.java:159)
>>>>>>>>>>> ... 37 more
>>>>>>>>>>> Caused by: java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: You cannot 
>>>>>>>>>>> modify
>>>>>>>>>>> this list. This list is a requirement of role:
>>>>>>>>>>> 'org.apache.maven.artifact.transform.ArtifactTransformationManager',
>>>>>>>>>>> implementation:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 'org.apache.maven.artifact.transform.DefaultArtifactTransformationManager',
>>>>>>>>>>> role hint: 'default' and managed by the container.
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.collections.ComponentList.remove(ComponentList.java:91)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.maven.artifact.transform.DefaultArtifactTransformationManager.initialize(DefaultArtifactTransformationManager.java:44)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.personality.plexus.lifecycle.phase.InitializePhase.execute(InitializePhase.java:33)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.lifecycle.AbstractLifecycleHandler.start(AbstractLifecycleHandler.java:97)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.manager.AbstractComponentManager.start(AbstractComponentManager.java:167)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.builder.XBeanComponentBuilder.startComponentLifecycle(XBeanComponentBuilder.java:283)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.builder.XBeanComponentBuilder.build(XBeanComponentBuilder.java:129)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.manager.AbstractComponentManager.createComponentInstance(AbstractComponentManager.java:181)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.manager.SingletonComponentManager.getComponent(SingletonComponentManager.java:67)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultComponentRegistry.getComponent(DefaultComponentRegistry.java:358)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultComponentRegistry.lookup(DefaultComponentRegistry.java:178)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.DefaultPlexusContainer.lookup(DefaultPlexusContainer.java:393)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.builder.XBeanComponentBuilder$RequirementRecipe.internalCreate(XBeanComponentBuilder.java:402)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xbean.recipe.AbstractRecipe.create(AbstractRecipe.java:96)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xbean.recipe.RecipeHelper.convert(RecipeHelper.java:167)
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.xbean.recipe.ObjectRecipe.setProperty(ObjectRecipe.java:466)
>>>>>>>>>>> ... 43 more
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Igor Fedorenko
>>>>>>>>>>> <i...@ifedorenko.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to add maven-compat as a dependency.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/22/2014, 12:27, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further down the message, this boils down to a failure to find an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ArtifactResolver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Benson Margulies
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plexus-container-default 1.5.5 changes some issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This seems to make some things better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first failure is:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testNoSnapshotDependencies(org.apache.maven.shared.release.phase.CheckDependencySnapshotsPhaseTest)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Time elapsed: 0.07 sec  <<< ERROR!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.repository.exception.ComponentLookupException:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unable to lookup component
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'org.apache.maven.project.MavenProjectBuilder', it could not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        role: org.apache.maven.project.MavenProjectBuilder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    roleHint: default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classRealm: plexus.core
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realm =    plexus.core
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strategy =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.classworlds.strategy.SelfFirstStrategy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Number of foreign imports: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.codehaus.plexus.component.collections.ComponentList.remove(ComponentList.java:91)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And this happens over and over. I am checking if I can make it go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away. the scm component error is gone, or at least hiding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Benson Margulies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Robert Scholte
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rfscho...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> src/test/resources/org/apache/maven/shared/release/phase
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to use a less ancient version of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plexus-container-default,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it requires some test changes, I'll let you know what happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>
>> Jason
>>
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>> There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're 
>> talking about.
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