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Timothy St. Clair updated MESOS-898:
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    Description: 
This is a rather substantial undertaking, so I would want upstream 
debate+buy-in prior to full commitment.  The basic premise is: upstream 
rebundles several of its dependencies in part to tightly control its stack.  
This is not out of the norm, but in order to be picked up by distribution 
channels it needs to built against system dependencies, and rebundling is 
strictly forbidden.  Given that the mesos primary target platform are 
data-center distributions such as RHEL/CENTOS/SL it makes sense to still have 
bundling support for those who do not have dependencies in their channels 
"yet".  This is where cmake can be win with it's uber macros 
(http://www.cmake.org/cmake/help/v2.8.8/cmake.html#module:ExternalProject).  I 
do not know of any equivalent in the autotools world, other then to brew your 
own solution.   I've done this type of work in the past, and completely 
transformed condor and would leverage a lot of the work that was done there. 

I currently have a tracking branch where I've started this work, but before I 
go off into the woods, it makes sense to have a debate in public. 

The primary benefits are: 
1. Enable downstream channels to easily distro without carrying a large patch 
set. 
2. Still support existing "non-proper" distribution methods. 
3. Harden / future proof dependent interfaces. 

Side Benefits: 
Audit current build mechanics.  
 - Presently the language specific binding are not installed.  (.py & .jar)
 - make -jX currently fails 
 - optionally look in arm support. 

Costs:
1. Time
2. Potential temporary destabilization
3. Infrastructure around build+test may need to change.

  was:
This is a rather substantial undertaking, so I would want upstream 
debate+buy-in prior to full commitment.  The basic premise is: upstream 
rebundles several of its dependencies in part to tightly control its stack.  
This is not out of the norm, but in order to be picked up by distribution 
channels it needs to built against system dependencies, and rebundling is 
strictly forbidden.  Given that the mesos primary target platform are 
data-center distributions such as RHEL/CENTOS/SL it makes sense to still have 
bundling support for those who do not have dependencies in their channels 
"yet".  This is where cmake can be win with it's uber macros 
(http://www.cmake.org/cmake/help/v2.8.8/cmake.html#module:ExternalProject).  I 
do not know of any equivalent in the autotools world, other then to brew your 
own solution.   I've done this type of work in the past, and completely 
transformed condor and would leverage a lot of the work that was done there. 

I currently have a tracking branch where I've started this work, but before I 
go off into the woods, it makes sense to have a debate in public. 

The primary benefits are: 
1. Enable downstream channels to easily distro without carrying a large patch 
set. 
2. Still support existing "non-proper" distribution methods. 
3. Harden / future proof dependent interfaces. 

Side Benefits: 
Audit current build mechanics.  Presently the language specific binding are not 
installed.  (.py & .jar)

Costs:
1. Time
2. Potential temporary destabilization
3. Infrastructure around build+test may need to change.


> Transform and audit mesos build process
> ---------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: MESOS-898
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-898
>             Project: Mesos
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: build
>            Reporter: Timothy St. Clair
>              Labels: build
>
> This is a rather substantial undertaking, so I would want upstream 
> debate+buy-in prior to full commitment.  The basic premise is: upstream 
> rebundles several of its dependencies in part to tightly control its stack.  
> This is not out of the norm, but in order to be picked up by distribution 
> channels it needs to built against system dependencies, and rebundling is 
> strictly forbidden.  Given that the mesos primary target platform are 
> data-center distributions such as RHEL/CENTOS/SL it makes sense to still have 
> bundling support for those who do not have dependencies in their channels 
> "yet".  This is where cmake can be win with it's uber macros 
> (http://www.cmake.org/cmake/help/v2.8.8/cmake.html#module:ExternalProject).  
> I do not know of any equivalent in the autotools world, other then to brew 
> your own solution.   I've done this type of work in the past, and completely 
> transformed condor and would leverage a lot of the work that was done there. 
> I currently have a tracking branch where I've started this work, but before I 
> go off into the woods, it makes sense to have a debate in public. 
> The primary benefits are: 
> 1. Enable downstream channels to easily distro without carrying a large patch 
> set. 
> 2. Still support existing "non-proper" distribution methods. 
> 3. Harden / future proof dependent interfaces. 
> Side Benefits: 
> Audit current build mechanics.  
>  - Presently the language specific binding are not installed.  (.py & .jar)
>  - make -jX currently fails 
>  - optionally look in arm support. 
> Costs:
> 1. Time
> 2. Potential temporary destabilization
> 3. Infrastructure around build+test may need to change.



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