Adding more code documentation will only help! Thanks for getting this
going Niklas! We'll need some documentation on how to write that
documentation too. ;-)

For those folks interested in "higher-level" documentation, like what I had
created for stout here
<https://github.com/apache/mesos/blob/master/3rdparty/libprocess/3rdparty/stout/README.md>,
I'd love to work with folks to do this for libprocess too (and/or increase
the coverage of stout). Please reach out!


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Niklas Nielsen <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Inlined.
>
>
> On 7 August 2014 10:46, Dominic Hamon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 6, 2014 4:33 PM, "Niklas Nielsen" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I think it is in communities interest to lower the barrier to entry for
> > new
> > > contributors to the project. Not only in terms of process (as BenH has
> > been
> > > putting a lot of effort into - bravo!) but also in terms of making it
> > > easier to understand the inner workings of Mesos.
> > > So far, it is more or less "Go look at the implementation" approach or
> > > having Mesos developers explain the details on the mailing lists to get
> > > deeper than the design discussions we have on JIRA or the few
> > > subsystem/architecture docs we have on wiki and in docs/.
> > > Not that this is a bad thing, but I think we could do a better job in
> > > codifying it a bit - one step could be to make source browsing and
> > > documentation generation (such as doxygen - I am not religious about
> > that)
> > > in place.
> > >
> > > If this is already on-going and hosted, let me know and I'll try to do
> a
> > > better job staying informed. If not, how about starting a conversation
> > on:
> > >
> > > 1) A style of doxygen annotations we can agree on (We have a Doxyfile
> > > already in the repo)
> > > 2) Start encouraging incoming patches to comment on public classes,
> > methods
> > > and variables
> > > 3) Start automating generation of those and host it, like we host the
> > > Javadoc at http://mesos.apache.org/api/latest/
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> >
> >
> > ​I'd like to start with a browsable code repository and existing comments
> > to see how good that is before requiring doxygen comments.​
> >
> >
> Will get that setup tomorrow. Thanks for the pointers Dave!
>
>
> > ​Having comments on class API formatted to doxygen style is a barrier to
> > entry and goes against the principle that public APIs on classes should
> be
> > ​self-documenting. Comments should be reserved for tricky behaviour
> rather
> > than for everything in the code-base.
>
>
> I do not agree with it raising the barrier to entry - on the other hand,
> how can "not documenting" be a motivation for lowering the bar?
> New contributors have to read tons of code to grasp the context of tiny
> portions of the code base (that has been our experience).
> Core concepts and components has to be rediscovered every time and it
> hasn't been condensed into documentation by people that wrote it or got to
> understand it.
>
> I did not have a strict method/variable documentation process in mind but
> we are already leaving blobs of comments around classes that are
> complicated / hard to understand.
> I am not rooting for commenting self explanatory code (i.e. int count //<
> This is a count.), but I think there are vast areas of under-documented
> classes and subsystems.
> Doxygen just would be one way of getting that in place with
> class/namespace/file cross-referencing.
>
>
> >
> > I'm all for having doxygen running and the results published as I think
> the
> > benefits to having the architecture documented are huge. Especially if
> the
> > report can contain dependency graphs. I need a lot of convincing before
> > I'll support wholesale doxygen commenting for interfaces.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Niklas
> > >
> >
>
> That was my few cents; I think it is an important discussion to have and I
> would love to hear other people's opinion too.
>
> Niklas
>

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