On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Dominic Hamon <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks for the thorough breakdown.
>
> I think we should have -O0 -g1 for a default as people building will be
> expecting good backtraces and to be able to run gdb without a recompile.
> Packaged builds should enable the release setting (-O2 -g0) so that end
> users get the fastest/smallest builds.
>

I want to note here, -g1  *has no impact* on backtraces. At least glog
backtraces will be exactly the same (And from what I can tell that is the
only backtrace system we use). Most people will be unhappy if they try
running gdb on a -g1 binary, in that no local variables will be
inspectable. You can get line numbers and external variables, but that is
it. '-g1' is primarily useful if you are running code analysis tools /
helpers (AddressSanitizer, ThreadSanitizer, etc).


> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Cody Maloney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I want to make our standard build flags match what other projects tend to
> > supply. In submitting a patch for this (
> > https://reviews.apache.org/r/26426/), Ben Mahler asked for some numbers
> > as to what effect the different combinations of flags have.
> >
> > Attached in testing_methodology.txt is the steps, build host config (AWS
> > c3.2xlarge running Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit, fresh install), and full results.
> > With each configuration I collected both the file size, as well as time
> to
> > build everything in mesos (But not actually run the testcases). The
> > attached diff was applied to remove the always appending '-O2 -g2' to
> > CXXFLAGS when --disable-optimize isn't specified.
> >
> > *My Suggestions:*
> > Current default: -O2 -g2 (NOTE: -g2 is undocumented by GCC)
> > Suggested new default:
> > -O0 (my preference) or -O0 -g1 for developers
> > -O2 for release
> >
> > I think -O0 should be the general default, which is overwritten whenever
> > CXXFLAGS is specified at any level (So that distribution packaging works
> > correctly). This gives us fast, small developer builds. And makes
> packaging
> > builds work correctly. Hand constructing packages I can add a '--release'
> > or '--mode=release' flag to configure so they get the right flags (If you
> > package natively for common distros CXXFLAGS and the like will be
> > automatically set to that distribution's packaging guidelines).
> >
> > *What about backtraces? Coredumps? Will they be harder to read without a
> > '-g' flag?*
> > *NO. *Nothing inside of mesos will have a worse experience now. Only if
> > you attach external programs which actually use dwarf debug information
> > (GDB, AddressSanitizer, ThreadSanitizer, etc), will enabling debug
> > information (-g{1,3}) change their output significantly. For those cases,
> > we can add a '--debug' flag. which will cause the debug info to be
> emitted
> > (Or you can manually specify CXXFLAGS to provide the debug info.
> Everything
> > internal (Such as the glog backtraces on fatal messages), simply looks up
> > the function name and demangles it. The callsite line / file is passed by
> > macro and as a result always there.
> >
> > More thorough information / explanation:
> > https://reviews.apache.org/r/26426/#comment_rc96919-56878
> >
> > *Useful References:*
> > GCC Debug levels (Look at '-glevel'):
> >
> https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Debugging-Options.html#Debugging-Options
> >
> > Why debug info gets big (and bigger), it's effect on comple time:
> > https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/DebugFission
> >
>
>
>
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> *There are no bad ideas; only good ideas that go horribly wrong.*
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