Not to put too fine a point on it, but how are folks planning on establishing 
governance around the App Container spec?

https://github.com/coreos/rocket/issues/193

If the mesos community decides to leverage our own, how do we ensure that we 
have say in the spec going forwards?  

Cheers,
Tim

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tobias Knaup" <t...@knaup.me>
> To: u...@mesos.apache.org
> Cc: "dev" <dev@mesos.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:39:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Rocket
> 
> An important point to clarify is that two things were announced: a spec
> (App Container) and an implementation (Rocket).
> Here is the spec:
> https://github.com/coreos/rocket/blob/master/app-container/SPEC.md
> This separation of spec and implementation is important. It makes it much
> easier to integrate in Mesos. systemd is also just the implementation of
> the runtime part of the spec that CoreOS chose for Rocket. Mesos can use
> something else or come with its own.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Dominic Hamon <dha...@twopensource.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Instead of considering the Rocket runtime as implemented, we should
> > instead consider how we can implement their specification. A community is
> > always healthier when there are multiple implementations of a
> > specification, and through implementing it we may find ways to improve it.
> >
> > Also, this allows us to be a strong voice in the community and provide
> > value through a C++ implementation.
> >
> > I've created a JIRA ticket
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-2162 to track any thoughts on
> > this.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Tim Chen <t...@mesosphere.io> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Per the announcement from CoreOS about Rocket (
> >> https://coreos.com/blog/rocket/) , it seems to be an exciting
> >> containerizer runtime that has composable isolation/components, better
> >> security and image specification/distribution.
> >>
> >> All of these design goals also fits very well into Mesos, where in Mesos
> >> we also have a pluggable isolators model and have been experiencing some
> >> pain points with our existing containerizers around image distribution and
> >> security as well.
> >>
> >> I'd like to propose to integrate Rocket into Mesos with a new Rocket
> >> containerizer, where I can see we can potentially integrate our existing
> >> isolators into Rocket runtime.
> >>
> >> Like to learn what you all think,
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dominic Hamon | @mrdo | Twitter
> > *There are no bad ideas; only good ideas that go horribly wrong.*
> >
> 

-- 
Cheers,
Timothy St. Clair
Red Hat Inc.

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