+1 on MAINTAINERS over OWNERS, and the rest of the proposal thus far. Also +1 on "Merit is not about quantity of work, it means doing things the community values in a way that the community values." I will, however, echo Tom's concern that we may need to break up master.cpp and slave.cpp if we want fine-grained maintainers of subcomponents of either.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Yan Xu <[email protected]> wrote: > Good point for "MAINTAINERS" > > -- > Jiang Yan Xu <[email protected]> @xujyan <http://twitter.com/xujyan> > > On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Vinod Kone <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I like MAINTAINERS because it sounds less authoritative than OWNERS. > > > > FWIW, maintainers is also a well understood and well used term (e.g: > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/linux/MAINTAINERS, > > > > > https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Hosting+Plugins#HostingPlugins-AddingMaintainerInformation > > ) > > > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Dominic Hamon <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Yes, great. > > > > > > Why not use OWNERS as it is already in use internally at Twitter, at > > > Google, in Chromium, and tooling already supports that as an implicit > > > standard? > > > On Feb 8, 2015 2:52 AM, "Benjamin Mahler" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I have been chatting with a few committers and we'd like to consider > > > adding > > > > the concept of MAINTAINERS files to coincide with our "shepherds" > > > concept, > > > > introduced here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/mesos-dev/201404.mbox/%3ccafeoqnwjibkayurkf0mfxve2usd5d91xpoe8u+pktiyvszv...@mail.gmail.com%3E > > > > > > > > Please take a moment to read that thread and its responses here in > > which > > > > maintainers are alluded to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/mesos-dev/201404.mbox/%3cca+a2mtvc61-3idxtm-ghgcxekqxwz063ouhpbrgbpvsa9zs...@mail.gmail.com%3E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/mesos-dev/201404.mbox/%3CCAAkWvAxegdg8+QQ4-sqZ-SKi9J=2WJDCVg_Sc9aaHttS4=6...@mail.gmail.com%3E > > > > > > > > *Motivation:* > > > > > > > > To re-iterate from that thread, many companies rely on Mesos as the > > > > foundational layer of their software infrastructure stack. Much of > the > > > > success of Mesos can be attributed to our focus on quality (code that > > is > > > > simple / easy to read and understand, high attention to detail, > > thorough > > > > reviewing, good testing practices, managing technical debt, learning > > from > > > > each other, etc). > > > > > > > > As the community of contributors has grown, it's become increasingly > > > > difficult to ensure that people are able to find reviewers with > > > experience > > > > in specific areas of the project. Good contributions often fall > through > > > the > > > > cracks as a result of the lack of clarity around this. > > > > > > > > We would like to ensure that reviewers with context and a long-term > > > outlook > > > > on the particular area of the code are involved in providing > feedback. > > It > > > > can be difficult for a contributor to consider the implications of > > their > > > > change, when they are looking to get a bug fixed or a feature > > implemented > > > > before the next release or the end of a sprint. > > > > > > > > We'd like to be able to add more and more committers as the community > > > > grows, and incentivize them to become responsible maintainers of > > > components > > > > as they become more involved in the project. > > > > > > > > *MAINTAINERS file system:* > > > > > > > > In order to ensure we can maintain the quality of the code as we > grow, > > > we'd > > > > like to propose adding an MAINTAINERS file system to the source tree. > > > > > > > > From the chromium mailing list (s/OWNERS/MAINTAINERS/): > > > > > > > > *"A MAINTAINERS file lives in a directory and describes (in simple > list > > > > form) whose review is required to commit changes to it. > MAINTAINERShip > > > > inherits, in that someone listed at a higher level in the tree is > > capable > > > > of reviewing changes to lower level files.* > > > > > > > > *MAINTAINERS files provide a means for people to find engineers > > > experienced > > > > in developing specific areas for code reviews. They are designed to > > help > > > > ensure changes don't fall through the cracks and get appropriate > > > scrutiny. > > > > MAINTAINERShip is a responsibility and people designated as > MAINTAINERS > > > in > > > > a given area are responsible for the long term improvement of that > > area, > > > > and reviewing code in that area."* > > > > > > > > This would be enforced via our review tooling (post-reviews.py / > > > reviewbot, > > > > apply-review.py), and a git commit hook if possible. > > > > > > > > There would be a process for becoming a maintainer, the details of > > which > > > we > > > > will clarify in a follow up. I’m thinking it will require an existing > > > > maintainer proposing a candidate to become a maintainer based on > merit. > > > > Merit is not about quantity of work, it means doing things the > > community > > > > values in a way that the community values. > > > > > > > > As part of this, we would be documenting qualities we look for in > > > > committers and maintainers. > > > > > > > > *Feedback:* > > > > > > > > The goal with this is to be even more inclusive than we are today > while > > > > maintaining the quality of our code and design decisions. > > > > > > > > I'm a +1 for this approach, and I would like to hear from others. > What > > do > > > > you like about this? What are potential concerns? Much of this was > > > thought > > > > about in terms of how to further the following of the Apache Way for > > > Mesos, > > > > any concerns there? Take your time to mull this over, your feedback > > would > > > > be much appreciated. > > > > > > > > If this does sound good to everyone at a high level, I will follow up > > > with > > > > further discussion to formalize this, and I’ll work to document and > > > > implement it. > > > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > >
