Thanks for chiming in Ross. This is for chat only. Decision making is still done via dev and user lists as always.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Ross Gardler <[email protected]> wrote: > Is this proposal for *chat* only as the subject says? If so then all good, > use whatever you like. If, however, the goal is to move some community > decision making processes to this channel then this is a problematic > proposal. I'll go into details if appropriate, but since I am an observer > not a participant here I'll assume I'm just lacking context (which by the > way is a worrying sign in itself - observers should be able to observe). > > Ross > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vinod Kone [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:04 PM > > To: dev <[email protected]>; Benjamin Hindman > > <[email protected]>; Jake Farrell <[email protected]> > > Subject: Slack as the canonical chat channel > > > > Looks like people have jumped the gun here before I sent the email :) > > > > Here is the context. During the community sync we discussed about using > > *Slack* or *HipChat* as our official chat channel instead of our current > > #mesos IRC channel on freenode. > > > > The main reasons for using Slack/Hipchat are > > > > - In-client chat history > > - Discoverability of work group specific channels > > - Email notifications when offline > > - Modern UX and clients > > > > During the sync most people preferred the move to *Slack*. I wanted to > get a > > sense from other community members as well through this email. Please let > > us know what you think. > > > > Note that even if we move to Slack, we will make sure people can still > connect > > using IRC clients and that the chat history is publicly available (per > ASF > > guidelines). During the transition period, we might mirror messages from > > Slack channel to IRC and vice-versa. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Vinit Mahedia <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > +1 Slack. > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:59 AM, Jay JN Guo <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > +1 Slack! > > > > > > > > /J > > > > > > > > Vaibhav Khanduja <[email protected]> wrote on 06/16/2016 > > > 22:26:27: > > > > > > > > > From: Vaibhav Khanduja <[email protected]> > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Date: 06/16/2016 22:26 > > > > > Subject: Re: Notification: Community Meeting @ Thu Jun 16, 2016 > > > > > 3pm > > > > > - 4pm (Apache Mesos) > > > > > > > > > > + 1 slack > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse for typos and brevity of this > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 16, 2016, at 6:46 PM, haosdent <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 For Slack. > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:33 AM, Greg Mann <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hello all, > > > > > >> Here are the notes from our community sync meeting this > afternoon: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Attendees: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Mesosphere: Joris, Greg, Haris, Artem, Joseph, Kapil, Anand, > > > Gilbert, > > > > > >> Harpreet, Kevin, Vinod, Jie, Joerg, MPark > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Uber: Zhitao Li > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Agenda/Note: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Reviewing the list of maintainers on > > > > > >> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fmesos.ap > > ache.org%2fdocumentation%2flatest%2fcommitters%2f&data=01%7c01%7cR > > oss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7c4ac63e1133dd404c211008d396ea9ea9%7c > > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=AJnSyfPVHItaEZaptx0etSg > > h0yGPq8BIyehhGiOLqqg%3d > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Add components for > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Documentation (docs/*) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Windows (*windows*) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> C++ standards (docs/c++-style-guide.md) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> HTTP API (http.*) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Persistence > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Test infrastructure (src/tests/*) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Build-related > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Autotools, CMake > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Subdivide Stout > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Subdivide Libprocess (3rdparty/libprocess/*) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Subdivide Container-related things > > > (src/slave/containerizer/*) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Networking > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Storage > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Resource allocation/Scheduler > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Development tools > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Think about some tooling to facilitate this > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2flxr.free- > > electrons.com%2fsource%2fMAINTAINERS&data=01%7c01%7cRoss.Gardler% > > 40microsoft.com%7c4ac63e1133dd404c211008d396ea9ea9%7c72f988bf86f > > 141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=5sEALPw36vWR4VKGcmqqft9nACXj7O > > kr%2fq6%2bOhI5LCo%3d > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI: Ben Mahler will send out an email to the mailing list > about > > > > > >> maintainers > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Reviewing and updating the roadmap. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f% > > > > > >> > > 2fcwiki.apache.org%2fconfluence%2fdisplay%2fMESOS%2fRoadmap&dat > > > > > >> > > a=01%7c01%7cRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7c4ac63e1133dd404c2110 > > > > > >> > > 08d396ea9ea9%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=4HVlL > > > > > >> 6Bu7nJx1Z%2fGBceizTrRpBE0qm%2bEeYT22fnY8BQ%3d > > > > > >> > > > > > >> (NOTE: it’ll be moved to documentation roadmap.md) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Review of working groups > > > > > >> > > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/mesos/blob/master/docs/working-groups > > > > > >> .md > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Jie]: Send emails to working group contacts (Simulation, > > > > Performance > > > > > >> Isolation, Resource Allocation) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Jie] : Split Nested Container into Pods and Nested > Containers > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Jie] : Remove Strategy > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Jie]: Send a proposal to dev@ regarding work groups > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Kevin] : Add a WG for Community (reviews, maintainers, > > > > > >> etc) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> [Fan / Joris] Rack Awareness > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Need to find a shepherd! > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Joris]: Ask on the dev@ list for the use case w.r.t > > > > frameworks > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Closing stale reviews ( > 3 months) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Joris/Artem/Vinod/Joseph]: Policy for re-opening > reviews > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Joris/Artem] : Email dev@ as a heads up before > closing the > > > > > >> reviews (referencing above policy) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Artem] : Revive Community Kanban board to properly > > > prioritize > > > > and > > > > > >> track issues > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Community metrics (e.g., affiliations) > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Mpark] : Blog post around Mesocon NA community talk > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Artem] : Email dev@ and personally to solicit > > > > > >> affiliations > > > > for > > > > > >> contributor metrics > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Communication Channel > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Slack, HipChat, IRC? > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> > > > > > >> AI [Vinod] : Email dev@ and user@ about using Slack as > > > canonical > > > > > >> communication channel > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Greg Mann > > > > > >>> <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Also note: tomorrow's community sync will be hosted at > > > > > >>> Mesosphere > > > HQ, > > > > 88 > > > > > >>> Stevenson St., San Francisco, CA. Community members are > > > > > >>> welcome to > > > > attend > > > > > >>> in person! > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> As usual, Google Hangout and Youtube links for the meeting > > > > > >>> will be > > > > posted > > > > > >>> in the Google doc just before the meeting begins. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Cheers, > > > > > >>> Greg > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Michael Park > > > > > >>>> <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > >>>> From: "Google Calendar" <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>> Date: Jun 15, 2016 6:00 PM > > > > > >>>> Subject: Notification: Community Meeting @ Thu Jun 16, 2016 > > > > > >>>> 3pm - > > > > 4pm > > > > > >>>> (Apache Mesos) > > > > > >>>> To: "Michael Park" <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>> Cc: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> more details » > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > >> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.go > > ogle.com%2fcalendar%2fevent&data=01%7c01%7cRoss.Gardler%40microsoft > > .com%7c4ac63e1133dd404c211008d396ea9ea9%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2 > > d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=id1ddF2AyWzjNMXe%2fpR0fd3wNYm5%2b12g1E > > WDk7yFNWg%3d? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > action=VIEW&eid=dmF2a2xrZG1mNGhsb25qYXJzb2ZnOGxrMWNfMjAxNjA2 > > MTZUMjIwMD > > > AwWiAyaGVjdm5kYzBtbmFxbGlyMzRjcW5mdnRha0Bn > > > > > > > > > >>>> Community Meeting > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> *When* > > > > > >>>> Thu Jun 16, 2016 3pm – 4pm Pacific Time > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> *Calendar* > > > > > >>>> Apache Mesos > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> *Who* > > > > > >>>> • > > > > > >>>> Michael Park - creator > > > > > >>>> • > > > > > >>>> [email protected] > > > > > >>>> *Attachments* > > > > > >>>> Mesos Developer Community Sync < > > > > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f% > > > > > >> > > 2fdocs.google.com%2fdocument%2fd%2f&data=01%7c01%7cRoss.Gardler > > > > > >> > > %40microsoft.com%7c4ac63e1133dd404c211008d396ea9ea9%7c72f988bf8 > > > > > >> > > 6f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lmIhR2wyveDZa%2fY5TtQ9JGwUAr4 > > > > > >> 9Yeu2uhvXM5%2fW2pY%3d > > > > > > > 153CUCj5LOJCFAVpdDZC7COJDwKh9RDjxaTA0S7lzwDA/edit?usp=drive_web > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Invitation from Google Calendar > > > > > >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a% > > > > > >>>> > > 2f%2fwww.google.com%2fcalendar%2f&data=01%7c01%7cRoss.Gardler > > > > > >>>> > > %40microsoft.com%7c4ac63e1133dd404c211008d396ea9ea9%7c72f988b > > > > > >>>> > > f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=MkHY0R9mlg9LH%2fNsu0Od%2b > > > > > >>>> XrHwNkAxi4D50EaSv9sc3A%3d > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> You are receiving this email at the account [email protected] > > > > because > > > > > >> you > > > > > >>>> set a notification for this event on the calendar Apache > Mesos. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> You can change your notifications for specific events in the > > > > > >>>> event > > > > > >> details > > > > > >>>> page in > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.go > > ogle.com%2fcalendar%2f&data=01%7c01%7cRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com > > %7c4ac63e1133dd404c211008d396ea9ea9%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd0 > > 11db47%7c1&sdata=MkHY0R9mlg9LH%2fNsu0Od%2bXrHwNkAxi4D50EaSv9s > > c3A%3d. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to > > > > > >>>> modify > > > your > > > > RSVP > > > > > >>>> response. 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