I don't have much experience with Maven or Java at the ASF, so I'll let one
of the other mentors chime in.


On 25 July 2013 20:10, Kasper Sørensen <[email protected]>wrote:

> Re2013/7/25 Noah Slater <[email protected]>
> >
> > On 24 July 2013 19:07, Kasper Sørensen <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> > > I also felt that having a release soon is a
> > > priority in order to show activity from the incubation perspective.
> > >
> >
> > Don't worry about getting the release out to satisfy some arbitrary
> > "activity" metric. We can demonstrate activity via mailing list posts,
> > commits, etc.
>
> OK then I guess we can have a little more patience.
>
> >
> >
> > > Maybe a snapshot (or other non-final) way of releasing would be good?
> Maybe
> > > my use of the word "release" wasn't entirely in line with what we can
> > > define as a "proper" release.
> >
> >
> > Aye. The word "release" is very special, so we need to be careful about
> how
> > we use it. There is no such thing as a "proper" release, as that implies
> a
> > less formal one. But the ASF makes no such distinction.
> >
>
> Read further down ...
>
> >
> > > What I had in mind is at least to make public
> > > a set of artifacts on the maven central, so that people can start using
> > > MetaModel with the org.apache namespace. Potentially well-knowing that
> > > there will be some breaking changes coming in the near future.
> >
> >
> > That's fine. But we need to call them snapshots, or nightlies, or builds,
> > or whatever. And when we talk about them, or link to them, we need to be
> > very clear with our language that these are not releases, they are not
> > meant to regular users, and should be downloaded and used by devs only.
> >
>
> ... further ...
>
> >
> > > Is that doable on short
> > > notice, and then we can rather plan a roadmap to a more official/final
> > > release?
> > >
> >
> > You could do that now, if you wish. Just bung some files in your web
> space
> > on people.apache.org. As long as you don't call them releases, or even
> hint
> > at the idea that they're releases, then everything should be fine.
>
> I would ideally want something we can publish on the maven central. No
> matter what we dub it (snapshot, build, release candidate etc.), but
> it should be there so we can start migrating projects that use MM to
> the new namespace. Maybe for a period only to prove that "it still
> works" (continuous integration etc.) and not necesarily that we've
> improved anything.
>
> Let me be concrete; I see for instance that commons-lang exist in the
> maven central under the seemingly "non final" version: 20030203.000129
>
> http://search.maven.org/#artifactdetails%7Ccommons-lang%7Ccommons-lang%7C20030203.000129%7Cjar
>
> To me this looks like a version name that identifies a build.
>
> Could we do a similar maven release of a build (consciously using the
> maven prefix here because it's the maven definition of a release to
> publish it to a repo :-)) to the central repo?
>
> >
> > --
> > NS
>



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