Agreed! Great insight Shane!
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 16:00 Michael Miklavcic <michael.miklav...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar! Thanks for the background info, the
> current state of affairs, the controversy, and finally (most of all) the
> fix.
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 12:52 PM Shane Ardell <shane.m.ard...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > NPM's use of lock files has been quite controversial. I won't go into it
> > too deep here as there are endless posts criticizing and justifying their
> > approach, but `npm install` will install all modules listed as
> dependencies
> > in package.json and update package-lock.json accordingly instead of
> > referencing the lock file. This caused a lot of outrage in the community
> (I
> > would argue rightfully so), which led to a compromise in release 5.7.1
> with
> > `npm ci`. This command installs exactly what is specified in the
> > package-lock.json.
> >
> >
> https://blog.npmjs.org/post/171556855892/introducing-npm-ci-for-faster-more-reliable
> >
> > Metron's build currently uses `npm install`, which is why we are seeing
> the
> > package-lock.json update whenever we build locally. Coincidentally, I
> just
> > addressed this by switching to `npm ci` in an open PR of mine because I
> > noticed the same happening locally and I was already updating npm
> commands
> > in the pom.xml.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/metron/pull/1096/files#diff-e8f55f2d9e4f18085052a36d750e9648L60
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 7:13 PM Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, that's what I thought too, but I wonder if it triggers a change
> if
> > > there's a dependency that is not version locked (i.e. the most recent
> > > version of dependency x moved from y to z).
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 11:52 AM Michael Miklavcic <
> > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Somewhere along the line the dependencies appear to have changed, but
> > the
> > > > file never got checked in. I don't like that this part of our build
> > also
> > > > seems to be non-deterministic. If I build metron 0.4.x today, for
> > > instance,
> > > > what will I get? If the answer is "who knows?" that's unacceptable,
> > imo.
> > > > I've glanced at the package file and see carrots littering the
> > > > dependencies, which as I understand it means "get me anything later
> > than
> > > > this version." I do not think we should be doing that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018, 9:14 AM Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have looked into this for other reasons and the guidance that
> I've
> > > seen
> > > > > is to check in package-lock.json into source control.  I'll leave
> > this
> > > > > stack overflow thread here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44206782/do-i-commit-the-package-lock-json-file-created-by-npm-5
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to point out that I hate that this changes as part of the
> > build.
> > > > I
> > > > > haven't gotten a complete handle on exactly why package-lock is
> > > changing
> > > > > seemingly non-deterministically yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Casey
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 11:05 AM Nick Allen <n...@nickallen.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I have noticed that also, but have not looked deeper.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:32 AM Otto Fowler <
> > > ottobackwa...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just did a PR, can saw that the package.lock file for
> alerts-ui
> > > was
> > > > > > > changed, with updated versions.
> > > > > > > I did *not* change the file, nor anything in metron-interface.
> > That
> > > > > seems
> > > > > > > to imply that this file is changed or updated by
> > > > > > > something that happens during building or deploying full dev.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is this true?  How does this work?  Is this on purpose?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ottO
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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