Hi Trustin, How about inquiring with Ceki to see if these concerns can be addressed then see what other options exist? The idea of yet another logging implementation is a bit nausiating: there are so many already in existance. Adding yet another one to the mix especially to be maintained by the mina community is just going to increase the confusion around logging. People are just tired, annoyed and confused with having to deal with all the logging choices.
On the otherhand you may have some very good reasons for it - if so why not just join the slf4j community to fix these issues. I dont think Ceki considering your history and reputation would object to granting you commit access. Alex On 9/27/07, Trustin Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/27/07, Maarten Bosteels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Trustin, > > > > I don't like this idea. > > It basically means that we are going to build are own logging-lib > > facade, a job that SLF4J does very well. > > > > And IMHO it won't simplify things, we'll have to explain people how > > our mechanism for choosing a logging-librarry works. > > > > Maybe a well-written FAQ entry about MINA and SLF4J would help out a lot ? > > Agreed, but there are some issues. > > > I agree that SLF4J is a great logging facade. It takes 10 minutes to > > read the documentation, and I think anyone serious about server-side > > java should take the time to check it out. > > > > I am also convinced that SLF4J is going to get more momentum in the > future. > > See the list of projects at the bottom of http://www.slf4j.org/index.html > > One disadvantage of SLF4J though is that it becomes unpredictable if > people puts wrong jars or additional jars in the classpath. It might > be a good idea if there's any way to diagnose such a problem. If we > can do that, we could print some direct instruction to the users. > Yes, it's what SLF4J has to offer, but I thought we can do that too. > > Another disadvantage of SLF4J is that it doesn't play well with > java.util.logging. Related discussion is found here: > > http://www.nabble.com/java.util.logging.LogManager-Implementation--t3754880.html > > For example, we can't incorporate very well with Tomcat in logging > because Tomcat is using java.util.logging. > > Trustin > -- > what we call human nature is actually human habit > -- > http://gleamynode.net/ > -- > PGP Key ID: 0x0255ECA6 >
