tomaswolf commented on a change in pull request #198:
URL: https://github.com/apache/mina-sshd/pull/198#discussion_r641700724



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File path: 
sshd-common/src/main/java/org/apache/sshd/common/config/keys/OpenSshCertificate.java
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@@ -52,26 +57,34 @@
     Collection<String> getPrincipals();
 
     /**
-     * Retrieves the time in number of seconds since the {@link 
java.time.Instant#EPOCH} at which this certificate
-     * becomes or became valid.
-     *
-     * @return the number of seconds since the Instant.EPOCH <em>as an 
unsigned 64bit value</em>
-     * @see    {{@link #isValidNow(OpenSshCertificate)}
+     * When null, implies forever
      */
-    long getValidAfter();
+    Instant getValidAfter();
+
+    default long getValidAfterEpochSeconds() {
+        if (getValidAfter() == null) {
+            return VALID_AFTER_FOREVER_EPOCH;
+        }
+        return getValidAfter().getEpochSecond();

Review comment:
       My point was not that someone would try to specify pre-1970 dates. The 
point was: if a certificate has a validAfter/Before >= 0x8000_0000_0000_0000 
(unsigned long), that's a time some 300 billion years in the future. If this is 
passed to Instant.ofEpochSecond(), you get an exception. Some other large 
values (>= 0xff8f_e310_1464_1400 in unsigned long; Instant.MIN_SECOND) are even 
much farther in the future but will be taken as negative values and yield 
pre-1970 instants in Java instead.
   
   Exactly:
   > -V 'always:20220101' versus -V '19700101:20220101' yield identical values.
   
   So zero is not special; but OpenSSH has a special token "always" for it.
   
   If the 64bit value is >= Instant.MAX_SECOND (0x70_1cd2_fa95_78ffL) or, 
interpreted as signed, is <= Instant.MIN_SECOND, converting the 64bit value to 
an Instant is going to be problematic.
   
   So... full round-tripping with Instant is not possible. If you want full 
round-tripping capabilities, long and being careful as a developer is the only 
way.
   
   For _setting_ validAfter/validBefore, Instant is the right interface if 
there is a validation that the `value == null || value.compareTo(Instant.EPOCH) 
>= 0`, serializing null as 0xffff_ffff_ffff_ffffL and Instant.getEpochSecond() 
otherwise. For decoding the timestamp of a certificate, one would have to 
handle the special cases:
   
   - value in the range [0 .. Instant.MAX_SECOND]: Instant.ofEpochSecond(value)
   - 0xffff_ffff_ffff_ffffL: null
   - any other: Instant.MAX
   
   Instant.MAX is still nearly a billion years in the future, which is good 
enough for all practical purposes.




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