Hi Chris, On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Chris Lord <ch...@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> Hi Oleg, > > On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 19:58 +0200, Oleg Bezorudko-Chyrykalov wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Chris Lord <ch...@linux.intel.com> > > To: dev@moblin.org > > Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:06:56 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [Moblin Dev] Moblin Browser > > Hi Mike, Oleg, > > > > It sounds like you guys have this under control, but I'm > > disappointed to > > hear that you didn't like our browser. Of course, we're well > > aware of > > some(/all?) of the bugs in it and it is definitely a > > work-in-progress, > > but is there anything specifically that you didn't like? > > > > It is not that I didn't like something, it is just different. I dont > > think we really need to have another browser in moblin when we have > > such great ones as Firefox. > > Why is there a need to reinvent a wheel? :-) Firefox runs really well > > on Moblin, granted some integration is missing but it is easy fixable. > > It also has a ton of features and plugins and it is loved by the > > community. > > Unfortunately, it isn't as easily fixable as you suggest. Mozilla isn't > designed to run in more than one process, and we require access to its > information to provide full integration with the rest of the OS, > regardless of whether the browser is running. > I think chromium is a multiprocess browser, but I understand your reasoning now. > > Then there's the issue of our browser fitting in with the rest of the > Moblin applications. It uses Clutter, letting us do all the neat, subtle > animations (which we'll be taking even further advantage of in future > versions) - this is something that XUL just isn't capable of. > You're right, moblin's looks and its ability for a quick start were the reasons for me to jump over the fence and use it as a main system instead of windows 7. Which, I have to mention - is a very capable OS(heh, finally) How are you going to integrate moblin browser with the rest of the system? Except for the stuff like putting most visited pages in the middle section of the m-zone. I assume it will have something to do with the whole cloud experience (hello to Chrome OS :) ) that everyone is talking about right now. > I agree that Firefox is great and I use it myself when other issues stop > me from using the Moblin web browser, but it isn't really designed for > the netbook form-factor. All the same, we still leverage as much from it > as possible. It's completely unsupported, but it's quite possible to use > Firefox extensions in the Moblin web browser, if you know what you're > doing :) Hopefully we'll be able to support something like Jetpack in > the future. > > > I understand, you don't want to be completely dependent on Mozilla's > > software and release cycles but I still think it just better to stick > > something people are used to. A customized(lighten up) version of > > Firefox for example. It should let you spend the effort on other parts > > of Moblin. > > I think what we've chosen to do reflects what we're doing with Moblin as > a whole. We could easily have taken banshee or rhythmbox too, put a skin > over it and chosen to focus our efforts elsewhere. Indeed, we could have > just not bothered with a fully-integrated shell and just half-heartedly > written some gdesklets, or something similar. > > We're trying to go the whole hog. Unfortunately, that's quite a task > with a browser, but I think we're getting there, and certainly as > Mozilla moves more in the direction of multi-process and embedding, > we'll be able to leverage more of their work. > Sounds like a good way to do it but perhaps there is a way, maybe, to cooperate with Mozilla foundation to get the best of two worlds, and bring firefox experience with the integration with moblin platform? > > > Hopefully we can fix that and convince you to try it again in > > the > > future :) > > > > Well, no search on a page was really disappointing :-) > > Oh and, for some reason, whenever I change default search provider to > > google, it switches back to Yahoo after I restart. > > Totally agree - that's bug #2419 and we want to have that fixed as soon > as possible (but of course, crasher and even more basic functionality > bugs take precedence). > > The latter bug is fixed in the latest code (unfortunately no bug number, > but we don't intend on breaking it :)) > Well, since you mentioning this... what is moblin's release cycle? When can we expect a next alpha (or beta)? :-) > > > Thanks for replying, Chris! > > And thanks for your feedback, it's duly noted :) > > Regards, > > --Chris > > > Thanks Chris, it is nice to see that you guys are keeping an eye on what users have to say. Regards, Oleg _______________________________________________ Moblin dev Mailing List dev@moblin.org To manage or unsubscribe from this mailing list visit: http://lists.moblin.org/listinfo/dev or your user account on http://moblin.org once logged in. For more information on the Moblin Developer Mailing lists visit: http://moblin.org/community/mailing-lists
