But this is a weakness of the plugin concept... a "plugin" is a collection of "goals" which are undeniably functional units. Obviously a plugin, being a collection, can be utterly incoherent. But this isn't the standard that we promote. Most plugins have a primary purpose - eg, maven-jar-plugin... which is to "jar", only secondarily to "sign-jar". Grouping is not an exact science, but that tends the be the way people conceive of them. If you want to get into the nitty-gritty of grouping, we can create a matrix, grouping per-goal. I doubt you'd find many supporters of that, however.
Eric On 4/6/07, Kris Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I disagree that reports are functionally distinct. Take for example the cobertura plugin - You can configure it to fail a build if your test code coverage is less than 70% for example. This has nothing to do with reporting, even though cobertura will produce a coverage report as well. In short, although plugins may have goals which create reports, it doesn't make their primary purpose reporting plugins. This causes ambiguity when trying to classify a plugin. Kris On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 13:52 -0500, Eric Redmond wrote: > > > On 4/6/07, Kris Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jason, > > I vote we remove the "reporting" group from your preliminary > list and > redistribute everthing under it into other categories. Maybe > this? > > +0 > > I won't veto it, but reports are functionally distinct from other > types of plugins... so distinct they have their own lifecycle (site - > fwiw) and configuration element in the POM. I prefer a seperate > group... I'm not against sub-groups, however. > > > Testing > * cobertura-maven-plugin > > Documentation > * taglist-maven-plugin > * docbook-maven-plugin > > Analysis > * jdepend-maven-plugin > * jdiff-maven-plugin > * javancss-maven-plugin > * rat-maven-plugin > * clirr-maven-plugin > > > > On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 17:39 -0700, Jason Dillon wrote: > > Any ideas what the categories should be... and which plugins > go where? > > > > > > I'm not super familiar with all of the plugins hosted > there... but > > here is a stab: > > > > > > Scripting > > > > > > * groovy-maven-plugin > > * jruby-maven-plugin > > > > > > Generators/Compilers/Translators (needs a better name, or > split up) > > > > > > * aspectj-maven-plugin > > * castor-maven-plugin > > * commons-attributes-maven-plugin > > * hibernate3-maven-plugin > > * idlj-maven-plugin > > * javacc-maven-plugin > > * jaxb2-maven-plugin > > * jpox-maven-plugin > > * jspc-maven-plugin > > * native-maven-plugin > > * retrotranslator-maven-plugin > > * sablecc-maven-plugin > > * smc-maven-plugin > > * wsdl2java-maven-plugin > > * xdoclet-maven-plugin > > * xmlbeans-maven-plugin > > > > > > Testing > > > > > > * selenium-maven-plugin > > * dbunit-maven-plugin > > * findbugs-maven-plugin > > > > > > App Server > > > > > > * jboss-maven-plugin > > * tomcat-maven-plugin > > * weblogic-maven-plugin > > > > > > IDE > > > > > > * netbeans-freeform-maven-plugin > > * nbm-maven-plugin > > * ideauidesigner-maven-plugin > > * pde-maven-plugin > > > > > > Reporting > > > > > > * cobertura-maven-plugin > > * javancss-maven-plugin > > * jdepend-maven-plugin > > * jdiff-maven-plugin > > * rat-maven-plugin > > * taglist-maven-plugin > > * docbook-maven-plugin > > * clirr-maven-plugin > > > > > > Tools > > > > > > * axistools-maven-plugin > > * build-helper-maven-plugin > > * exec-maven-plugin > > * keytool-maven-plugin > > * minijar-maven-plugin > > * native2ascii-maven-plugin > > * sql-maven-plugin > > * xml-maven-plugin > > * webstart-maven-plugin > > > > > > I might have missed a few... anyways, just a stab at what > > the categories could be. > > > > > > Any comments? > > > > > > --jason > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 2007, at 7:13 AM, Eric Redmond wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/4/07, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can we re-arrange the site plugin list (on this > page http:// > > > mojo.codehaus.org/) to group plugins by > functionality > > > instead of by > > > release status? > > > > > > Like I'd like to see a "Language Support" group > or > > > something, that > > > has the groovy-maven-plugin and > jruby-maven-plugin. > > > > > > I'd also like to see the latest release version on > the page, > > > just > > > like how the main maven plugins page > > > ( http://maven.apache.org/ > > > plugins/ ). > > > > > > I think that the main site index would be a lot > easier to > > > grok if we > > > updated it to follow the lead of the mvn plugins > page. > > > > > > Comments? > > > > > > +1 but don't involve the sandbox in that grouping. > > > > > > > > > Also, there is a lot of random garbage in the site > dav > > > share, looks > > > like some plugins were misconfigured at some point > and > > > deployed site > > > information in the wrong directory. Looks like > mostly > > > appfuse and > > > weblogic, though did find someother stuff too. I > think this > > > should > > > be cleaned up. > > > > > > --jason > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from this list please visit: > > > > > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Eric Redmond > > > http://codehaus.org/~eredmond > > > > > > > > > -- > Eric Redmond > http://codehaus.org/~eredmond
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