Alex, I see your point. You are right. We need to find something more appropriate. It's not urgent. Maybe we should not use the 'miracle' pronunciation too. MRQL should be pronounced M-R-Q-L, not miracle. It's not important to use this name and may sound a bit silly and obnoxious.
Leonidas

On 04/04/2013 03:21 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote:



On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Leonidas Fegaras <fega...@cse.uta.edu <mailto:fega...@cse.uta.edu>> wrote:

    What do you thing about this logo?

    http://lambda.uta.edu/mrql-logo.jpg

    Its the elephant-god Ganesha writing code using the Apache feather.
    Leonidas



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The use of religious, national, or political symbols are unacceptable for a logo/mascot at the ASF. Think about it like this: would a logo with Jesus healing a blind man (miracles being performed) be acceptable? Using Ganesha is essentially the same thing. Please pick something else as the logo/mascot figure. Stay away from religion: it's not our business.
</mentor-hat-on>

I'll be retarded and fully spell it out for you guys. I'm not trying to be a dick about it so please hear me out and understand why.

Personally I think it's cute and again kind of plays on miracles and Hadoop's elephant motif. I see what you're trying to do/convey and I appreciate it. This would be great if MRQL was not here at Apache. We however are in the Apache Incubator and there are rules and "ways" we have to follow. So unfortunately you must compromise and can't pick these kinds of figures to use for a logo/mascot.

So I'm fine with Ganesha but I hate to think about having someone yank the logo out of my hands (and be right for doing so) after I've invested so much time and emotion using it for months or a year. It would be a bummer.

Come graduation time it will become another contentious discussion that will consume much time and energy.

Although untrue, just presume that I or someone else am insulted by this as a non-Hindu. You are opening up a can of worms here.

Can you see this?

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Best Regards,
-- Alex
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