I am fine without a vote unless a vote is required?  Any objections,
anyone?  You're sort of adding functionality here, not changing or
restricting...  We can always change to Apache later.

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Marco de Abreu <
marco.g.ab...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I'd be in favour of GitHub. Shall we open a vote or would you like me to
> create a POC with GitHub first and afterwards we can check if that's
> enough?
>
> -Marco
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 8:13 PM, Chris Olivier <cjolivie...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Apparently Apache supports OATH, so I am open to either.
> > Good idea for the docker thing.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Marco de Abreu <
> > marco.g.ab...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > GitHub SSO allows the neat feature that login and permission can be
> > > selected depending on the access rights a user has to a project.
> Somebody
> > > with write access (committers) would be get different permissions than
> > > somebody with only read access.
> > >
> > > We could check back with Apache for SSO, but this would involve Apache
> > > infra. We could put it up to a vote whether to use GitHub or Apache
> SSO.
> > >
> > > In order to reproduce a build failure we have been thinking about
> > changing
> > > the ci_build.sh in such a way that it can be run manually without
> > Jenkins.
> > > The setup I took over binds the Jenkins work directory into the docker
> > > containers and uses a few hacks which are hard to reproduce locally. We
> > > plan to reengineer this script to make it easier to run manually.
> > > But making the AMI public is a good idea! We plan to make the whole
> > > infrastructure code (based on Terraform) completely public - at the
> > moment
> > > it's in a private repository as it contains credentials, but they will
> be
> > > moved to KMS soon. It would definitely be a good approach to just
> supply
> > > the AMI so everybody could recreate the environment in their own
> account.
> > >
> > > -Marco
> > >
> > > Am 05.01.2018 7:51 nachm. schrieb "Chris Olivier" <
> cjolivie...@gmail.com
> > >:
> > >
> > > Well, login to the Jenkins server, I would imagine.
> > >
> > > github or Apache SSO (does Apache support OAUTH?) seems like a good
> idea
> > as
> > > long as there's a way to not let everyone with a github account log in.
> > >
> > > Access to actual slave machines could be more restricted, I imagine.
> > >
> > > Eventually, a public current AMI for a build slave would be good in
> order
> > > to reproduce build or test problems that can't be reproduced locally.
> > >
> > > wdyt?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Marco de Abreu <
> > > marco.g.ab...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Would it be an acceptable solution if we add SSO or do you also want
> > > access
> > > > to the actual AWS account and all machines?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, the build jobs are automatically getting created for new
> branches.
> > > >
> > > > -Marco
> > > >
> > > > Am 05.01.2018 7:35 nachm. schrieb "Marco de Abreu" <
> > > > marco.g.ab...@googlemail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > I totally agree, this is not the way it should work in an Apache
> > Project.
> > > > It's running on an isengard account, meaning it is only accessible
> for
> > > > Amazon employees. The problem is that a compromised account could
> cause
> > > > damage up to 170,000$ per day. There are alarms in place to notice
> > those
> > > > cases, but we still have to be very careful. These high limits have
> > been
> > > > chosen due to auto scaling being added within the next week's.
> > > >
> > > > I'd be happy to introduce a committer into the CI process and all the
> > > > necessary steps as well as granting them permission. The only
> > restriction
> > > > being that it has to be and Amazon employee and access to console,
> > master
> > > > and slave only being possible from the Corp network.
> > > >
> > > > There is no open ticket. What would you like to request?
> > > >
> > > > -Marco
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am 05.01.2018 7:22 nachm. schrieb "Chris Olivier" <
> > cjolivie...@gmail.com
> > > >:
> > > >
> > > > Like John and other mentors were saying, it's not proper for CI to
> be a
> > > > closed/inaccessible environment.  Is it running on an Isengard
> account
> > or
> > > > in PROD or CORP or just generic EC2?  I think that we should remedy
> > this.
> > > > It's very strange that no committers have access at all.  Is there a
> > > ticket
> > > > open to IPSEC?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Marco de Abreu <
> > > > marco.g.ab...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > At the moment this is not possible due Amazon AppSec (Application
> > > > security)
> > > > > restrictions which does not permit user data and credentials on
> these
> > > > > machines.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been thinking about adding single sign on bound to GitHub,
> but
> > > we
> > > > > would have to check back with AppSec.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the reason for your request still the ability to start and stop
> > > > running
> > > > > builds?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Marco
> > > > >
> > > > > Am 05.01.2018 7:11 nachm. schrieb "Chris Olivier" <
> > > cjolivie...@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > >
> > > > > Marco,
> > > > >
> > > > > Are all committers able to get login access to the Jenkins Server?
> > If
> > > > not,
> > > > > why?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Chris
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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