Ran benchmark and it addresses issue. Thanks.

On 11/28/18, 6:02 PM, "Zhao, Patric" <[email protected]> wrote:

    MKL-DNN v0.17.1 is released https://github.com/intel/mkl-dnn/tree/v0.17.1
    
    I have submitted the PR to pin this release version.
    
    Thanks,
    
    --Patric
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Zhao, Patric [mailto:[email protected]]
    > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:07 PM
    > To: [email protected]
    > Subject: LSTM regression (was RE: Include MKLDNN into default mxnet pip
    > package)
    > 
    > Hi Anirudh,
    > 
    > The LSTM performance bug is fixed by MKL-DNN and PR  in here
    > (https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/13417).
    > 
    > I am still working on MKL-DNN team to get a patch release for MXNet 1.4 in
    > 1 or 2 days.
    > 
    > Will update the status soon.
    > 
    > Thanks everyone.
    > 
    > --Patric
    > 
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Anirudh Subramanian [mailto:[email protected]]
    > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:16 AM
    > > To: [email protected]
    > > Subject: Re: Include MKLDNN into default mxnet pip package
    > >
    > > Hi Tao,
    > >
    > > I agree with Steffen that we can start with a stable release for
    > > MKLDNN for 1.4.0. For your suggestion on using 0.17, can you provide
    > > info on what versioning mechanism MKLDNN uses. Once a MKLDNN
    > release
    > > is out and there are some regressions found like the LSTM regression,
    > > would it be possible to do a patch release for it or maintain a release
    > branch for it ?
    > >
    > > Anirudh
    > >
    > > On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 5:03 PM Lv, Tao A <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Hi Steffen,
    > > >
    > > > I think all the commits on MKL-DNN master branch are well tested for
    > > > MKL-DNN development team. If we really want to have a release commit
    > > > in the coming 1.4 mxnet release, my suggestion is 0.17 MKL-DNN 
release.
    > > >
    > > > Thank you,
    > > > Tao
    > > >
    > > > Sent from my iPhone
    > > >
    > > > > On Nov 26, 2018, at 8:09 AM, Steffen Rochel
    > > > > <[email protected]>
    > > > wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > +1 to make MKL-DNN default.
    > > > > I'm tracking
    > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/issues/13369
    > > > > as open issue to be addressed for 1.4.0 I do agree that we should
    > > > > move to a model to include released
    > > > dependencies
    > > > > instead of just taking bleeding edge snapshots.
    > > > > However, speed of development is important as well.
    > > > > As a compromise for 1.4.0 release with MKL-DNN: can the MKL-DNN
    > > > development
    > > > > team provide us with a well tested tag/commit id to include in
    > > > > 1.4.0 release?
    > > > > Steffen
    > > > >
    > > > >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 11:42 PM Lv, Tao A <[email protected]>
    > > wrote:
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Thanks for the information, Kellen and Naveen.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Better than onnx-tensorrt, MKL-DNN has already provided
    > > > >> versioning and release tags. My concern is that as MKL-DNN is
    > > > >> still under intensive development, if it has a new feature or bug
    > > > >> fix on its master branch,
    > > > do we
    > > > >> really want to wait for next release to get it supported in MXNet?
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Take the LSTM regression as an example, probably MKL-DNN will
    > > > >> give a fix or improvement on its master branch soon, do we need
    > > > >> to wait for 0.18 release to get it fixed for mxnet user? AFAIK,
    > > > >> tensorflow is also using normal commit id, not release, as the
    > > > >> dependency for MKL-
    > > DNN.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Regarding the LSTM regression, we are using internal JIRA tickets
    > > > >> rather than github issues to track the defects of MKL-DNN. But I
    > > > >> agree with
    > > > you,
    > > > >> we need update the progress of it in Alex's issue.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Thanks,
    > > > >> -tao
    > > > >>
    > > > >> -----Original Message-----
    > > > >> From: kellen sunderland [mailto:[email protected]]
    > > > >> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 10:55 AM
    > > > >> To: [email protected]
    > > > >> Subject: Re: Include MKLDNN into default mxnet pip package
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Agree with your point about other repos also not being based on
    > > > versioning
    > > > >> Tao.  I would point out that I've given some that I've worked
    > > > >> with
    > > > similar
    > > > >> feedback: https://github.com/onnx/onnx-tensorrt/issues/68
    > > > >>
    > > > >>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 6:48 PM Naveen Swamy
    > > <[email protected]>
    > > > wrote:
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>> Tao,
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>> You are right there are many submodules in 3rd party. We have to
    > > > >>> start somewhere and I believe this one is a good candidate to
    > > > >>> start
    > > with.
    > > > >>> This is not to cater to release of MXNet or to tie them with the
    > > > >>> releases of the submodules but instead to pick only stable
    > > > >>> releases and not to pick up bleeding edge commits from the tip
    > > > >>> of the master, this gives us confidence in the submodule that
    > > > >>> MXNet users are depending on that especially if we make MKLDNN
    > the default.
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>> Good to know it is known already as a regression.Alex has
    > > > >>> created this issue
    > > > >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/issues/13369,
    > > > >>> please add details and link the corresponding issue in MKLDNN(I
    > > > >>> couldn't
    > > > find).
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>> -Naveen
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 6:04 PM Lv, Tao A <[email protected]>
    > > wrote:
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> Here are my answers for the questions from Kellen and Naveen
    > > > >>>> about MKL-DNN. It doesn't mean that I'm supportive for making
    > > > >>>> MKL-DNN default here.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> @Kellen,
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> FYI, here is a list for those platforms which are officially
    > > > >>>> supported by MKL-DNN.
    > > > >>>> https://github.com/intel/mkl-dnn#system-requirements
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> Most of computation intensive kernels in MKL-DNN are JITed. So
    > > > >>>> they are supposed to generate code according to the platform
    > > > >>>> during runtime. For non-JIT code in MKL-DNN, same as other code
    > > > >>>> in MXNet, it will generate instructions according to the
    > > > >>>> options/flags of compiler. We can set -DARCH_OPT_FLAGS when
    > > build
    > > > >>>> MKL-DNN to avoid optimization for compiling machine. That's
    > > > >>>> exactly what we are doing
    > > > >> for MKL-DNN build in MXNet.
    > > > >>> Even
    > > > >>>> without MKL-DNN, I noticed there were issues about illegal
    > > > >>>> instructions
    > > > >>> of
    > > > >>>> MXNet when users import the pip package on a lower end machine
    > > > >>>> which probably only supports SSE.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> @Naveen,
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> The LSTM issue has already been identified as a regression from
    > > > >>>> the
    > > > >>> recent
    > > > >>>> version of MKL-DNN. Hopefully it will be fixed soon with a new
    > > > >>>> update of MKL-DNN.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> MXNet has many submodule dependencies under the 3rd party
    > folder.
    > > > >>>> Seems
    > > > >>> we
    > > > >>>> don't require release versions for most of these dependencies.
    > > > >>>> The
    > > > >>> release
    > > > >>>> period of MKL-DNN and MXNet are not matched very well. I think
    > > > >>>> it would
    > > > >>> be
    > > > >>>> a risk for MXNet release if it hardly depends on the release of
    > > > >>>> a submodule, no need to say depends on the releases of all
    > submodules.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> -tao
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
    > > > >>>> From: Naveen Swamy [mailto:[email protected]]
    > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 9:08 AM
    > > > >>>> To: [email protected]
    > > > >>>> Cc: [email protected]
    > > > >>>> Subject: Re: Include MKLDNN into default mxnet pip package
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> Hi Alex,
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> Thanks for promptly running the numbers on AMD and reporting
    > here.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> Can you please update the AMD numbers here for posterity
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>
    > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/MXNet+with+Intel
    > > > >>> +MKL
    > > > >>> -DNN+-+Performance+Benchmarking
    > > > >>>> ?
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> are there any outstanding issues when MKLDNN is enabled? from
    > > > >>>> my offline conversation I am briefly aware performance issues
    > > > >>>> with LSTM, is there an GitHub issue for it?
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> MKLDNN is a submodule dependency, are we pulling the latest
    > > > >>>> commit or releases  ? If not we should move to releases before
    > > > >>>> we make it a
    > > > >>> default.
    > > > >>>> Ideally we should use platform specific distributions (-dev
    > > > >>>> packages) at least we should rely on well tested releases.
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> Thanks, Naveen
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 4:55 PM Zai, Alexander
    > > > >>> <[email protected]
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>> wrote:
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>>> AMD benchmarks have been published. We are seeing a x15.8
    > > > >>>>> speedup with
    > > > >>>>> Resnet50 (batch size 32) on AWS's new m5a.24xlarge machine.
    > > > >>>>> With a smaller network (Mobilenet - batch size 32) the speedup
    > > > >>>>> is more significant at x38.7. Let's have a vote to see if the
    > > > >>>>> PR to have MKLDNN enabled by default
    > > > >>>>> (https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/12591) can be
    > > > >>>>> merged before 1.4.0 release.
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>>> On 10/19/18, 9:17 AM, "Pedro Larroy"
    > > > >>>>> <[email protected]>
    > > > >>>>> wrote:
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>>>    I did  pip install mxnet-mkl==1.3.1b20181018 on an AMD
    > > > >>>>> Ryzen 1950X and unit
    > > > >>>>>    tests are passing.
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>>>    Is this build using AVX512?  in /proc/cpuinfo I see only 
"avx"
    > > > >>> flag.
    > > > >>>>>    There's no "avx2" like on recent intel cpus.
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>>>    Pedro.
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>>>    On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 5:12 PM Hagay Lupesko
    > > > >>>>> <[email protected]>
    > > > >>>>> wrote:
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>>>> Awesome collaborative effort across many contributors and
    > > > >>>> companies!
    > > > >>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>> The boost is impressive and for MXNet users to get this
    > > > >>>>> boost "out of the
    > > > >>>>>> box" is a great benefit and makes MXNet an even better choice.
    > > > >>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>> Alex - can you clarify whether there are any down sides with
    > > > >>>>> regards to
    > > > >>>>>> noon AVX-512 architectures, AMD CPUs, etc? Will it
    > > > >>>>> gracefully fallback?
    > > > >>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>> Hagay
    > > > >>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018, 15:46 Sergio Fernández
    > > > >>>>> <[email protected]>
    > > > >>>>> wrote:
    > > > >>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>> If there is no downside on platforms not supporting AVX512
    > > > >>>>> instructions,
    > > > >>>>>>> then +1
    > > > >>>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 14:10 Alex Zai <[email protected]>
    > > > >> wrote:
    > > > >>>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>>> Hey all,
    > > > >>>>>>>> We have been working hard these past few months to
    > > > >>>>> integrate
    > > > >>>> and
    > > > >>>>>>> stabilize
    > > > >>>>>>>> Intel’s MKLDNN deep learning CPU accelerator into Mxnet
    > > > >>>>> and have made
    > > > >>>>>>>> incredible progress. On CPUs with AVX512 instructions
    > > > >>>>> (such as
    > > > >>>>> c5.18x)
    > > > >>>>>> we
    > > > >>>>>>>> have seen performance increase up to 12x and on other
    > > > >>>>> platforms (Macs,
    > > > >>>>>>>> AVX2) we seen a speedup of 1.5+. Full list of benchmarks
    > > > >>>>> can be found
    > > > >>>>>>> here
    > > > >>>>>>>> (
    > > > >>>>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>
    > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=9
    > > > >>> 5650
    > > > >>> 764
    > > > >>>>>>>> and https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/12591
    > > > >> ).
    > > > >>>>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>>> Currently, using this accelerator requires the developer
    > > > >>>>> to either pip
    > > > >>>>>>>> install the mxnet-mkl version of mxnet or to build it
    > > > >>>>> themselves from
    > > > >>>>>>>> source. Given that we should try to provide the best
    > > > >>>>> performance "out
    > > > >>>>>> of
    > > > >>>>>>>> the box” with mxnet we should include this in the
    > > > >>>>> default
    > > > >>>> build.
    > > > >>>>> The
    > > > >>>>>>> mkldnn
    > > > >>>>>>>> library is included with in the pip package build so it
    > > > >>>>> does
    > > > >>>> not
    > > > >>>>>> require
    > > > >>>>>>> an
    > > > >>>>>>>> external dependency.
    > > > >>>>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>>> There were concerns that MKLDNN could cause regressions
    > > > >>>>> on certain
    > > > >>>>>>>> platforms (as it did with the tensorflow version a while
    > > > >>>>> back); but we
    > > > >>>>>>>> added a env flag (MXNET_MKLDNN_ENABLED) that allows
    > > > >>>>> users to turn of
    > > > >>>>>> this
    > > > >>>>>>>> feature during runtime. Please bring up any other
    > > > >>>>> concerns you may have
    > > > >>>>>>> and
    > > > >>>>>>>> your thoughts on including this accelerator in the
    > > > >>>>> default
    > > > >>>> build.
    > > > >>>>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>>> Best,
    > > > >>>>>>>> Alex
    > > > >>>>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>>
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>>>
    > > > >>>>
    > > > >>>
    > > > >>
    > > >
    

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